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Economic conundrum
Geez, I was just making out my shopping list and every time I do this, I have this personal battle with myself.
I live in a rural area and just recently they built us a huge mother of a Super Walmart.
I've always loved shopping at my local markets for groceries...they are employee owned or family owned.
I've always believed in keeping the money earned in my own community in my community.
But as much as I want to do this, I can't now.
The local markets have doubled their price on just about everything on the shelf since the new Walmart opened.
I cannot pay nearly $10.00 for a can of coffee! I cannot pay their prices, which forces me to spend our market budget at the big evil Walmart.
I know Walmart does put back into the community that they are located in, and I also know about all the protesting about how they pay and treat their employees.
But I so miss patronizing the locally owned businesses. I still do as much shopping as possible with local merchants.
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| March 31, 2007, 11:14 |
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Mooant
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New Britain, Connecticut, US
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unfortunetely, that was a mistake your local stores made when they raised the prices. They will eventually close because of that. They raised their prices our of fear that not enough people would shop at their store now that the Prime Evil arrived. If they had kept their prices the same or only slightly higher, then their loyal customers would have stayed. But when they price gouged everything, they sealed their fate.
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| March 31, 2007, 11:22 |
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funlovingpair
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Frozen Tundra, Minnesota, US
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That's almost the opposite of what normally happens. Usually its when the big evil shows up, they will under cut the price of everyone else. That's way you can't compete against them. Not to mention that they have all there goods on consignment. That way the big evil doesn't have to pay for all the product, until they have sold it. Must be rough. I had to pay for all my product up front. They also get some very good deals on prices. They sell a lot of product for what others have to pay wholesale. Now how does the small business compete with that. They can't, and it won't be long before the smaller shops start to lock their doors.
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| March 31, 2007, 11:49 |
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It's just sad, I love my rural community!
Today when I'm wandering around the vastness of the Supercenter, I'll look around at all the other shoppers and wonder if they feel the same twangs of emotion and thoughts that I do.
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| March 31, 2007, 11:54 |
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Don't feel guilty because you're forced into shopping at WALMART because your local mom and pop was forced into raising his prices beyond reason as soon as WALMART blew into town. That conglomerate has the world by the balls. They dictate what they will pay for a particular item and that is what the supplier sells it to them for, PERIOD!! There is no negotiation, only their terms! On top of that, the majority of their inventory is on consignment so WALMART doesn't pay for that inventory until it's sold at their store. That's a sweet deal for them. Just think, they get paid for the goods, they deposit the money in their account and then probably 30, 60 or 90 days or more later, they finally cut a check to the supplier of that item! Tons of float time. In the mean time, they're sitting on that money. The supplier is financing WALMART's success.
The mom and pops don't get to negotiate any terms with their suppliers. They cut a check for their inventory when the goods are delivered. No float time there!! The local retailer has his money tied up in inventory. Not a sweet deal for them.
I firmly believe that the suppliers are secretly persuaded to charge a higher price to the mom and pops when a WALMART is about to move in, in the event that supplier will also be a vender for WALMART. That way, they almost guarantee the local retailer cannot compete in price with WALMART. Yes it's a conspiracy theory, with no firm foundation, but it's a gut feling of the realities of the situation. There's just too many indicators not to be a possibility.
Yes, it's true. I do take halluciagenic drugs!!!!
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| March 31, 2007, 13:19 |
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The stores here have not raised their prices since the Super Wal-Mart has opened here. I do still shop at a grocery store for food too. hehe Seldom go to WAl-Mart for much of anything.
I agree your local stores should have not raised their prices, was a stupid mistake. They deserve what they get.
Have you asked the local stores why they have doubled the prices? 
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| March 31, 2007, 13:42 |
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Chazzy...you have to shop where you can afford to shop. I know people get scared when superstores come in but there is something to be said for going to Mom and Pop places. I couldn't afford to shop at my favorite grocery store either if they doubled the prices...no one has doubled your income so you have to go where you have to go.
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| March 31, 2007, 15:43 |
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CHAZZY, 'ya do what 'ya gotta do! Nobody'll think you're a traitor to your local town. They go to WALMART too, for the same reasons. The prices there are freakin' unreal, aren't they?
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| March 31, 2007, 15:48 |
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QUOTE (JCSOS @ March 31, 2007, 13:42)Have you asked the local stores why they have doubled the prices?
Nope...I popped in, grabbed a cart, strutted up a few isles and put a few things in my cart, went to grab a 3lb can of coffee ....and kept double checking the price of coffee displayed on the shelve...kept thinking I'm not seeing that right!! Double checked the price in the other few items I had in cart (by now, my jaw has dropped to the floor) looked around at some of the other prices displayed...put the items back on the shelf, pushed the empty cart back to its proper place, and left... astounded and shocked!
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| April 1, 2007, 11:13 |
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One of my nephews is a general manager of a SUPER WALMART in GLENS FALLS, NY. He told me he buys a lot of stuff there for his own family such as dry goods (food) but buys his meats at another super market. He knows something's up!!!!!!
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| April 1, 2007, 11:26 |
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NRG4U
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Beaver City, Nebraska, US
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got the same problem here Chazzy.I want to keep the local market, but wal mart can sell cheaper than the local market can buy. We already lost the lumber yard, which means I have to drive or have my lumber delivered
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| April 1, 2007, 11:34 |
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Just an example of how WALMART can kick the sh*t out of a mom and pop market would be the loss leader of 2 litre bottles of COKE or PEPSI. The local supermarket will offer COKE or PEPSI at say $.79/ no limit. They might run that special for 1 week just to tempt buyers into the store, where it is hoped they will buy other regular priced items. WALMART can play that game everyday of the year and not suffer a loss on one bottle. They are able to wait out the local guy who even attempts to play that game.
Can you imagine a sales rep/supplier at his first meeting with WALMART buyers? He or she probably kneels down or bends over and tells the reps to make he or she their bitch just on the off chance he or she might land an account on the scale of a WALMART!!
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| April 1, 2007, 12:17 |
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Did you know that Wal-Mart requires it's suppliers to have a rep in the Bentonville, AR area?
'Tis true. 
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| April 1, 2007, 12:21 |
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KINKYINTHEFALLS
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wild and wonderful, West Virginia, US
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Walmart can afford to do this. Have you ever noticed that nothing in the store is made in North America? I don't know how it is there as far as their employees but here it's brutal. Any talks of union and your out 
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| April 1, 2007, 18:55 |
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yea Chazzy those are some tough issues we must deal with..and its very difficult to continue shopping at the Local when they aren't as competitive in pricing...allegiance is a two-way thing..."they" have to do their part to expect the continuity of ur allegiance too...
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| April 2, 2007, 08:26 |
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Ya know what's funny? Just up the road about 30 miles, is a quaint little historic river town that economy depends so much on tourism.
They (this town) will not and have not allowed any Walmart from being built in their town to protect their local charm, tourism businesses and small business...but the fuckers come here in car, van, and busloads weekly to shop at this Walmart!
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| April 2, 2007, 08:48 |
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Up here in liberal country such as AMHERST Ma, Hadley Ma, they are always having town referendums on either allowing or not allowing WALMART to come to town. At least once a year this occurs. It's funny, HOME DEPOT, BEST BUYS, STOP & SHOP, ect ect were allowed in their town only to force the respective competing mom and pop retailers out of business.
I think WALMART will try and try until they get a positive vote. It will happen. They are way too powerful and influential to allow a bunch of phony capitalistic wanna be liberals to keep them out. NEVER HAPPEN!!!!
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| April 2, 2007, 10:21 |
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From what I know about the young years of Sam Walton, he was a determined workaholic who lived by the business laws of "dog eat dog" "feelings are nice, but business comes first" and "take care of number 1 and screw the rest"
From the git go...his goal was not only to build his own business, but to do it by bankrupting all the competition.
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