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Who Pays?
The three Mt.HOOD climbers decided to attempt a climb that they were neither capable of or equipped for. They did an irresponsible thing (children do things like that) and therefore, in my view, their families should be held financially responsible for their recovery.
You and I know the authorities will not send the climbers' families, the bill. Well, guess who ends up paying for those dumb asses' irresponsible acts?
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| December 19, 2006, 07:18 |
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40something
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In the Sun, Arizona, US
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Re: Who Pays?
See now I understood these to be experienced capable climbers who got caught in unexpected weather.
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| December 20, 2006, 15:01 |
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funlovingpair
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Frozen Tundra, Minnesota, US
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QUOTE (40something @ December 20, 2006, 15:01)See now I understood these to be experienced capable climbers who got caught in unexpected weather.
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| December 20, 2006, 15:03 |
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Im with you Bill. Your posts on this echo everything Ive been saying for days. Forget the monetary aspect, Im more concerned about all the rescuers lives that are being put at risk.
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| December 20, 2006, 16:06 |
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funlovingpair
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Frozen Tundra, Minnesota, US
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The rescuers are highly trained people. They go though 100's of hours of training. The first thing they teach you, if you don't feel that it is safe, don't do it. The main concern in any rescue effort, is to prevent the rescuers from becoming victims themselves. It is very rare that this occures, but it does for a variety reasons, and that's the risk we take when those of us who would rather help others, than those who would rather sit in a arm chair and be the Monday morning quarterback.
My thoughts and prayers go out to the families who's loved ones are trapped. Sadly enough, the families have decided this effort should no longer a rescue effort, but a recovery effort.
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| December 20, 2006, 20:26 |
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I have no idea whether what they did was right or wrong and as for who pays....I guess for me it's not an issue. My taxes goes to alot of stupid shit and is abused badly...But, to be a people who will do everything we can to save lives (Even if they we're not thinking clearly) is a no brainer. I'll pay for people (the Rescuers) with taxes everytime. I'm wierd that way.
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| December 20, 2006, 20:32 |
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QUOTE (40something @ December 20, 2006, 15:01)See now I understood these to be experienced capable climbers who got caught in unexpected weather.
I do agree. IF these was just a stupid attempt by inexperienced climbers then their families should pay the bill.
It is my understanding that these were experiencd climbers that got caught in a storm. I think they should have been smart enough to check the weather more carefully before leaveing. All of he weather forcasters had predicted large storms comming inland for several weeks. They should have known better.
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| December 29, 2006, 09:38 |
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I would have to agree with "User no longer a registered user" My tax dollars are spent with reckless abandonment already, we may as well spend them on some one that is in need. Like we spend millions to feed the hungry overseas, and yet we have people in our own backyards that are hungry and homeless. I say lets take care of us first, then we can help the other countries.
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| December 29, 2006, 20:03 |
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one word...yup!!!
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| December 30, 2006, 01:49 |
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I don't know about other mountains but it costs a single climber 40,000 dollars to climb Mount Everest whether they make it all the way to the summit or not..if one can afford so much money on an "adventure"...maybe they could afford and extra 10,000 dollars on top of that, like a "security deposit"...this extra 10 grand would go for paying for their rescue if it comes down to that, and refunded to the climbers if they make it to the summit and back down on their own...
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| January 1, 2007, 04:52 |
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I think that the state or country should make them sign a "Your on Your own" contract before the even start
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| January 1, 2007, 06:26 |
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there are alot of other things that need attention before rescuing Careless stupid rich people seeking the death penalty for adventure.
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| January 1, 2007, 06:32 |
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QUOTE (Chazzy @ January 1, 2007, 04:52)I don't know about other mountains but it costs a single climber 40,000 dollars to climb Mount Everest whether they make it all the way to the summit or not..if one can afford so much money on an "adventure"...maybe they could afford and extra 10,000 dollars on top of that, like a "security deposit"...this extra 10 grand would go for paying for their rescue if it comes down to that, and refunded to the climbers if they make it to the summit and back down on their own...
That's an idea I like!! ACtually, I'm a bit surprized that Oregon didn't charge them something like that anyway.
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| January 1, 2007, 09:12 |
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QUOTE (JckMeHoff @ January 1, 2007, 09:12) QUOTE (Chazzy @ January 1, 2007, 04:52)I don't know about other mountains but it costs a single climber 40,000 dollars to climb Mount Everest whether they make it all the way to the summit or not..if one can afford so much money on an "adventure"...maybe they could afford and extra 10,000 dollars on top of that, like a "security deposit"...this extra 10 grand would go for paying for their rescue if it comes down to that, and refunded to the climbers if they make it to the summit and back down on their own...
That's an idea I like!! ACtually, I'm a bit surprized that Oregon didn't charge them something like that anyway.
I think CO still has a small rescue fee built into to the state parks usage fee..
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