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ATM Theft!
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ATM Theft!
I can't confirm this but I received it from a friend in an e mail.... great advice if it works!

PIN NUMBER REVERSAL (GOOD TO KNOW, SOMETHING TO SHARE)

If you should ever be forced by a robber to withdraw money from an ATM machine, you can notify the police by entering your Pin # in reverse. For example if your pin number is 1234 then you would put in 4321. The ATM recognizes that your pin number is backwards from the ATM card you placed in the machine. The machine will still give you the money you requested, but unknown to the robber, the police will be immediately dispatched to help you. This information was recently broadcasted on FOX TV and it states that it is seldom used because people don't know it exists.



 December 13, 2006, 09:33
 

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Re: ATM Theft!
Can't hurt to try when you find yourself in that unfortunate and desperate situation!
 December 13, 2006, 09:37
 

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Re: Re: ATM Theft!
  QUOTE (Chazzy @ December 13, 2006, 09:37)
Can't hurt to try when you find yourself in that unfortunate and desperate situation!



Got no funds left in my account so I guess it dosn't really matter
 December 13, 2006, 09:42
 

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Re: ATM Theft!
If I sneak up behind you at an ATM, JJ...I'm not after your funds, I'm there to sexually assault you!

....Moon, I'll have to check the FOX website and see if I can find that info there and send it on to my parents...anything to keep them safer!
 December 13, 2006, 09:44
 

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Re: ATM Theft!
I'd probably get arrested but I'm willing to give it a try just to see if it works! I was at an ATM the other night and there was a truck in the parking lot... empty. This was around 9:30. Needless to say I kept on goin'
 December 13, 2006, 09:47
 

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Re: Re: ATM Theft!
  QUOTE (Chazzy @ December 13, 2006, 09:44)
If I sneak up behind you at an ATM, JJ...I'm not after your funds, I'm there to sexually assault you!

....Moon, I'll have to check the FOX website and see if I can find that info there and send it on to my parents...anything to keep them safer!



Ok, well in that case I'll give you every thing I got!
 December 13, 2006, 09:48
 

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  QUOTE (MoonHowler @ December 13, 2006, 09:47)
I'd probably get arrested but I'm willing to give it a try just to see if it works! I was at an ATM the other night and there was a truck in the parking lot... empty. This was around 9:30. Needless to say I kept on goin'



Next time call me. I'd be happy to go with you
 December 13, 2006, 09:49
 

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Re: Re: Re: ATM Theft!
  QUOTE (Jessejames @ December 13, 2006, 09:49)
  QUOTE (MoonHowler @ December 13, 2006, 09:47)
I'd probably get arrested but I'm willing to give it a try just to see if it works! I was at an ATM the other night and there was a truck in the parking lot... empty. This was around 9:30. Needless to say I kept on goin'



Next time call me. I'd be happy to go with you



Hum somehow that dosn't seem correct. Maybe I should have said I'd be happy to cum with you?
 December 13, 2006, 09:50
 

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  QUOTE (Jessejames @ December 13, 2006, 09:50)
  QUOTE (Jessejames @ December 13, 2006, 09:49)
  QUOTE (MoonHowler @ December 13, 2006, 09:47)
I'd probably get arrested but I'm willing to give it a try just to see if it works! I was at an ATM the other night and there was a truck in the parking lot... empty. This was around 9:30. Needless to say I kept on goin'



Next time call me. I'd be happy to go with you



Hum somehow that dosn't seem correct. Maybe I should have said I'd be happy to cum with you?







 December 13, 2006, 09:52
 

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Re: ATM Theft!
I couldn't find it on the FOX website, but I did google it and got this result...
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Use Reverse PIN # to Contact Police in ATM Emergency
Netlore Archive: Email rumor claims ATM users can contact police in the event of an attempted robbery by entering their PIN in reverse

Description: Email rumor
Circulating since: October 2006
Status: False
Analysis: See below


Email example contributed by P. Enoch, 14 October 2006:

See this important message below.

I just found out that should you ever be forced to withdraw monies from an ATM machine, you can notify the police by entering your Pin # in reverse. The machine will still give you the monies you requested, but unkown to the robber, etc, the police will be immediately dispatched to help you. The broadcast stated that this method of calling the police is very seldom used because people don't know it exist, and it might mean the difference between life and death. Hopefully, none of you will have to use this, but I wanted to pass it along just in case you hadn't heard of it. Please pass it along to everyone possible.



Comments: False, for now. The technology exists which would allow ATM users to contact police in an emergency by punching in their PIN (personal identification number) in reverse, but as of this writing it has not yet been implemented anywhere in the United States.

Lawmakers in the states of Kansas and Illinois introduced legislation calling for the institution of reverse-PIN emergency notification systems (also known under the brand name SafetyPIN) in 2004, but the Kansas bill stalled in committee and the Illinois bill was watered down at the behest of the banking industry, making the adoption of the technology purely voluntary -- which it already was.

According to a story published in the St. Louis Post-Dispatch last year, bankers are opposed to the reverse-PIN system because of safety concerns. They worry that ATM users might hesitate or fumble while trying to enter their PINs backwards under duress, possibly increasing the chances of violence. The banking industry is in favor of finding a means to protect ATM customers, a member of the American Bankers Association said, but question whether the reverse-PIN solution is the right one.

Inventor of PIN number reversal system says banks 'in denial'

The inventor of SafetyPIN, Joseph Zingher, claims the banking industry is afraid to admit the growing extent of the crime of ATM robbery. Exact figures are hard to come by because ATM holdups are lumped in with other types of bank robbery in the FBI's annual crime statistics. Of the 8,000 to 12,000 bank robberies per year counted by the FBI over the past 15 years, 3,000 to 4,000 (or just over one-third) were ATM robberies, according to the banking industry. Some crime experts suspect the figure is actually higher.

Bankers, for their part, insist they do acknowledge the problem of ATM crime and recommend that customers exercise due caution and be aware of their surroundings when using automated teller machines.

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Awww dammit! So the technology for this does exist, and can be done, but nobody is doing it?
Bummer! It would be a real life saver if they did !

 December 13, 2006, 09:58
 

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Re: ATM Theft!
I found the story..... Look up "snopes." Type in "reverse pin number" and search.... oh well, wishful thinking

 December 13, 2006, 10:00
 

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Re: Re: ATM Theft!
  QUOTE (Chazzy @ December 13, 2006, 09:58)
I couldn't find it on the FOX website, but I did google it and got this result...
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Use Reverse PIN # to Contact Police in ATM Emergency
Netlore Archive: Email rumor claims ATM users can contact police in the event of an attempted robbery by entering their PIN in reverse

Description: Email rumor
Circulating since: October 2006
Status: False
Analysis: See below


Email example contributed by P. Enoch, 14 October 2006:

See this important message below.

I just found out that should you ever be forced to withdraw monies from an ATM machine, you can notify the police by entering your Pin # in reverse. The machine will still give you the monies you requested, but unkown to the robber, etc, the police will be immediately dispatched to help you. The broadcast stated that this method of calling the police is very seldom used because people don't know it exist, and it might mean the difference between life and death. Hopefully, none of you will have to use this, but I wanted to pass it along just in case you hadn't heard of it. Please pass it along to everyone possible.



Comments: False, for now. The technology exists which would allow ATM users to contact police in an emergency by punching in their PIN (personal identification number) in reverse, but as of this writing it has not yet been implemented anywhere in the United States.

Lawmakers in the states of Kansas and Illinois introduced legislation calling for the institution of reverse-PIN emergency notification systems (also known under the brand name SafetyPIN) in 2004, but the Kansas bill stalled in committee and the Illinois bill was watered down at the behest of the banking industry, making the adoption of the technology purely voluntary -- which it already was.

According to a story published in the St. Louis Post-Dispatch last year, bankers are opposed to the reverse-PIN system because of safety concerns. They worry that ATM users might hesitate or fumble while trying to enter their PINs backwards under duress, possibly increasing the chances of violence. The banking industry is in favor of finding a means to protect ATM customers, a member of the American Bankers Association said, but question whether the reverse-PIN solution is the right one.

Inventor of PIN number reversal system says banks 'in denial'

The inventor of SafetyPIN, Joseph Zingher, claims the banking industry is afraid to admit the growing extent of the crime of ATM robbery. Exact figures are hard to come by because ATM holdups are lumped in with other types of bank robbery in the FBI's annual crime statistics. Of the 8,000 to 12,000 bank robberies per year counted by the FBI over the past 15 years, 3,000 to 4,000 (or just over one-third) were ATM robberies, according to the banking industry. Some crime experts suspect the figure is actually higher.

Bankers, for their part, insist they do acknowledge the problem of ATM crime and recommend that customers exercise due caution and be aware of their surroundings when using automated teller machines.

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Awww dammit! So the technology for this does exist, and can be done, but nobody is doing it?
Bummer! It would be a real life saver if they did !




You can bet as soon as some fat cat CEO of a major bank gets robbed or worse one of his family members, it will be working
 December 13, 2006, 10:01
 

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Re: ATM Theft!
I'm still gonna stalk JJ at the ATM....
 December 13, 2006, 10:02
 

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Re: ATM Theft!
hehe


True, JJ.... it happened to a man's wife (check out the search I posted). He tried to get the law passed but failed
 December 13, 2006, 10:04
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Re: ATM Theft!
Yes, and the thiefs will know about the reverse PIN thing and just shoot the victim after getting their money. Fortunately the police will be along shortly afterward to start the investigation.

I do not own an ATM card. If I need something later than the bank operates, I use credit cards.
 December 13, 2006, 10:38
 

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Re: ATM Theft!
Wasn't it Joe Pesce that once said, "they fuck ya' in the drive thru!"

In Chazzy and JJ's case, it would be literal
 December 13, 2006, 10:41
 

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Re: ATM Theft!
I can see your point there PN.....maybe using an ATM late at night is like painting a big ole bulls-eye target with fluorescent paint on your back..
 December 13, 2006, 10:42
 

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Re: ATM Theft!
Here's another suggestion....

If you absolutely have to, like in my case, do NOT put your vehicle in park! The assailant is more than likely going to miss his target if you break his *@*#(#)* arm when you speed off!
 December 13, 2006, 10:47
 

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Re: Re: ATM Theft!
  QUOTE (MoonHowler @ December 13, 2006, 10:41)
Wasn't it Joe Pesce that once said, "they fuck ya' in the drive thru!"

In Chazzy and JJ's case, it would be literal



No if I jsut had some money to put into my account, I'd make a lot more trips to the ATM - that is as long as it isn't Ass to Mouth were talking about Talk about dog breath!!
 December 13, 2006, 11:00
 

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Re: ATM Theft!
Actually, I've heard that if you fear and feel you are being stalked or targeted for a violent crime, that an excellent deterent is to start picking your nose, not with a kleenex and a pinkiy finger, I mean really start digging in there....they say this really grosses out even the hardest desperate criminals, and they will be so disgusted and revolted by you, that they will just move on....
 December 13, 2006, 11:10
 

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  QUOTE (Chazzy @ December 13, 2006, 11:10)
Actually, I've heard that if you fear and feel you are being stalked or targeted for a violent crime, that an excellent deterent is to start picking your nose, not with a kleenex and a pinkiy finger, I mean really start digging in there....they say this really grosses out even the hardest desperate criminals, and they will be so disgusted and revolted by you, that they will just move on....



OMG that's frickin' hilarious!!! But I can see how that would work
 December 13, 2006, 11:11
 

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Re: ATM Theft!
I wouldn't hesitate to try it if I thought the shadowy figure following me was a serial rapist/killer, or even a mugger!
 December 13, 2006, 13:03
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Re: ATM Theft!
just a thought what if your pin number is 2992 or one like that, it reads the same either way so how would your bank know if you was being mugged?
 December 14, 2006, 00:04
 

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Re: Re: ATM Theft!
  QUOTE (slowpoke2 @ December 14, 2006, 00:04)
just a thought what if your pin number is 2992 or one like that, it reads the same either way so how would your bank know if you was being mugged?




I think I remember while searching it out yesterday that the doode that developed and is pushing for this "SafetyPIN" system, had that worked out.
 December 14, 2006, 08:23

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