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Large tracts of land !
Anyone ever buy any tracts of land,from 20 to 200 acres ? Going back to SC.& GA. the 9th aug to look at 100 acres from this timber and land Co. in South Carolina, seems to good to be true, you can buy land down there from 700. to 3000. an acre depending on how much and what type of trees and rivers and ponds/lakes are on it. went there last month and got interested, may be buying some this time have 8 parcels to look at. thought maybe some of you or the silent members have done this and could give me some tips on what to watch out for???
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August 7, 2004, 16:43 |
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if it is western SC, or north west GA, you need to make sure the land isn't VERTICAL. 200 acres on a mountain side can be nice if you are a billy goat, but sucks if you want to build a house. Many of the large lots available are wooded and steep. Check the land easements, and DEFINITELY check on the Timber Rights and Mineral Rights. Many times these rights will not convey with the sale, leaving a mining company, or a timber company with the right to come in and take over anytime they want. Road easements, neighboring property easements and such can also lower the value of the property.
I just looked at a 180 acre property in VA, It had no access except for a 30 foot easement at the end of a subdivision (which put it into the homeowners association]for the subdivision and subject to their rules). Although it was cheap, I had to pass. We couldn't have used the land for anything other than residential (one house per lot).
check everything.
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August 7, 2004, 18:36 |
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Sounds like you have been looking for land also? And have done your homework! I never heard of neighboring property easements! will be sure to check that one. Thanks for the tips, your very resourceful.
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August 7, 2004, 20:11 |
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sometimes your property in the hills will landlock a neighboring tract. Common law in most areas allows the landlocked parcel an automatic easement through you to the nearest point of access to a road. They also will be able to run phone poles, and power lines up the easement if one is granted. Could easily ruin the view, or the whole property's value if you wanted unbroken land.
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August 8, 2004, 05:10 |
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Hothands, another problem I have run into is with septic systems. Since sewage is rarely available the land must perk, our be suitable to have a drain field on it, if you ever want to live there. Alterative systems are available but can be cost prohibitive. This is a more common problem in low lying or swampy areas, which S.C. is known for.
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August 8, 2004, 07:37 |
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sunbuff10
69 / male Tidewater area, Virginia, US
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QUOTE (sunbuff10 @ August 8, 2004, 07:37)Hothands, another problem I have run into is with septic systems. Since sewage is rarely available the land must perk, our be suitable to have a drain field on it, if you ever want to live there. Alterative systems are available but can be cost prohibitive. This is a more common problem in low lying or swampy areas, which S.C. is known for.
Need to add 1 more thing.. Since the guidelines for sewage-systems are becoming more strict, property that passed a few years ago may not pass under current rules. That can create a huge problem, which is what I experienced! The days of digging a hole in the ground and putting an outhouse over it are gone.
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August 8, 2004, 07:53 |
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QUOTE (kbateman @ August 8, 2004, 05:10)sometimes your property in the hills will landlock a neighboring tract. Common law in most areas allows the landlocked parcel an automatic easement through you to the nearest point of access to a road. They also will be able to run phone poles, and power lines up the easement if one is granted. Could easily ruin the view, or the whole property's value if you wanted unbroken land.
Well that eliminates 2 parcels just from looking at the plats& serveys they faxed me, their both land locked! and two others have major power easements, which border the properties. Thank again Kat
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QUOTE (sunbuff10 @ August 8, 2004, 07:53) QUOTE (sunbuff10 @ August 8, 2004, 07:37)Hothands, another problem I have run into is with septic systems. Since sewage is rarely available the land must perk, our be suitable to have a drain field on it, if you ever want to live there. Alterative systems are available but can be cost prohibitive. This is a more common problem in low lying or swampy areas, which S.C. is known for.
Need to add 1 more thing.. Since the guidelines for sewage-systems are becoming more strict, property that passed a few years ago may not pass under current rules. That can create a huge problem, which is what I experienced! The days of digging a hole in the ground and putting an outhouse over it are gone.
that a very good point.I am looking at the land discription and some of them have been perked and some not, thanks for the info, out houses arent my style either, and I will be having a home or log cabin built. thanks, this is great info sunbuff10.
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don't know the regulations down there but if the soils don't pass the perk test.. its possible to install a tank and it really isn't that much more expensive than a septic system if it won't see a HUGE demand. just will need to have it pumped out once or twice a year. we put in a lot of these on lake properties and seem to work fine.
and kb's right on the money, land carries many rights with it but just because you "own" the property doesn't mean you have all the rights to it and if certain rights were sold before, they may or may not be available to you as a buyer
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August 8, 2004, 08:29 |
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QUOTE (boredcountryboy @ August 8, 2004, 08:29)don't know the regulations down there but if the soils don't pass the perk test.. its possible to install a tank and it really isn't that much more expensive than a septic system if it won't see a HUGE demand. just will need to have it pumped out once or twice a year. we put in a lot of these on lake properties and seem to work fine.
I wonder what covers a person so that doesnt happen , in Illinois I think all we have is a title search Insurance. Around here you cant afford to buy lots of land, averages from 50g to a 100g per acre for residential and comercial prop is in the millions, waterfront residential starts out at 2,600 per linier foot of water frontage averaging 175 ft length.
and kb's right on the money, land carries many rights with it but just because you "own" the property doesn't mean you have all the rights to it and if certain rights were sold before, they may or may not be available to you as a buyer
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August 8, 2004, 09:46 |
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Got my parragraphs out of order somehow ^
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August 8, 2004, 09:49 |
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bawbie
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but no singing!
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August 8, 2004, 10:36 |
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i tend to stay away from the legal aspects but i believe it should say something like "conveys all rights" in the deed? i would suspect that if someone holds one or some of the rights that wouldn't transfer to you there would be an except in there.... but again i'd ask a lawyer if you find a piece that you might seriously buy. good luck!
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August 8, 2004, 12:07 |
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Everyone has already given you some sound advice. One thing I did not see mentioned is financing. If you've got cash, then no problem. But different banks have different rules. One bank that I've dealt with gives you only five year loans on raw land. If you build a house on it, then you can alter a portion of the land into a conventional mortgage.
Trees - If you're buying timber pine watch out for beetle infestation. Make sure that trees have been properly mananged (thinned out). Typically done every 5 to 7 yers. Hire a forester/agent, especially if you're having them thinned and selling the timber off to the lumber industry.
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August 8, 2004, 12:35 |
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Hello Doc!!!
Mineral rights in Missouri can mean coming home one day, and seeing a huge big ass mother freakin clay pit instead of a back yard
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August 8, 2004, 12:48 |
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QUOTE (cntrydoc @ August 8, 2004, 12:35)Everyone has already given you some sound advice. One thing I did not see mentioned is financing. If you've got cash, then no problem. But different banks have different rules. One bank that I've dealt with gives you only five year loans on raw land. If you build a house on it, then you can alter a portion of the land into a conventional mortgage.
Trees - If you're buying timber pine watch out for beetle infestation. Make sure that trees have been properly mananged (thinned out). Typically done every 5 to 7 yers. Hire a forester/agent, especially if you're having them thinned and selling the timber off to the lumber industry.
Heard about the beetles, but didnt realise you had to thin out the trees to keep them in check. I guess at my age Id only need to have them thinned,7yrs X 5 = 35 + 53=88 about 5 times.
thanks for the info cntrydoc.
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Keeping the trees thinned is not necessarily to stop beetle infestation - although it helps. You thin the trees so the remaining ones get bigger - which means more board lumber versus the stuff that gets chipped up to make OSB (too small to make a 2 x 4). Board lumber = more money. Thinning the trees does make the stand healthier - which seems to stem beetle infestation somewhat, as they target weaker trees.
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QUOTE (cntrydoc @ August 8, 2004, 13:44)Keeping the trees thinned is not necessarily to stop beetle infestation - although it helps. You thin the trees so the remaining ones get bigger - which means more board lumber versus the stuff that gets chipped up to make OSB (too small to make a 2 x 4). Board lumber = more money. Thinning the trees does make the stand healthier - which seems to stem beetle infestation somewhat, as they target weaker trees.
I have a son that lives in anderson county,SC. leaving in the morning, staying with him while looking at property, want to get around 100 acres or so, and have some chickens, couple pigs and some geese, if Im lucky enough to have a pond. Hate this cold weather up here been here all my life, not actually in chicago aprox. 60 mi. N/W only 11 MI. south of the WI. Border.
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August 8, 2004, 14:51 |
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I must be suffering from bad manners today - Hi Chazzy!
hothands - Thought of this after I wrote the last post - If your looking at pine trees and see sap on the bark, sap coming out of small holes = beetles. I don't think that one or two trees here or there is bad, but if you see this happening on a significant number of trees - watch out! That timber may be worthless. Know what you mean about cold weather. I moved here from Ohio 14 years ago and I'm not looking back... takes some adjustment, but the weather rocks.
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QUOTE (hothands @ August 8, 2004, 14:51) QUOTE (cntrydoc @ August 8, 2004, 13:44)Keeping the trees thinned is not necessarily to stop beetle infestation - although it helps. You thin the trees so the remaining ones get bigger - which means more board lumber versus the stuff that gets chipped up to make OSB (too small to make a 2 x 4). Board lumber = more money. Thinning the trees does make the stand healthier - which seems to stem beetle infestation somewhat, as they target weaker trees.
I have a son that lives in anderson county,SC. leaving in the morning, staying with him while looking at property, want to get around 100 acres or so, and have some chickens, couple pigs and some geese, if Im lucky enough to have a pond. Hate this cold weather up here been here all my life, not actually in chicago aprox. 60 mi. N/W only 11 MI. south of the WI. Border.
100 acres? That's enough land to open a web naughty sex camp, at least a nude campground. Be nice to have some more places to go!
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QUOTE (sunbuff10 @ August 8, 2004, 17:13) QUOTE (hothands @ August 8, 2004, 14:51) QUOTE (cntrydoc @ August 8, 2004, 13:44)Keeping the trees thinned is not necessarily to stop beetle infestation - although it helps. You thin the trees so the remaining ones get bigger - which means more board lumber versus the stuff that gets chipped up to make OSB (too small to make a 2 x 4). Board lumber = more money. Thinning the trees does make the stand healthier - which seems to stem beetle infestation somewhat, as they target weaker trees.
I have a son that lives in anderson county,SC. leaving in the morning, staying with him while looking at property, want to get around 100 acres or so, and have some chickens, couple pigs and some geese, if Im lucky enough to have a pond. Hate this cold weather up here been here all my life, not actually in chicago aprox. 60 mi. N/W only 11 MI. south of the WI. Border.
100 acres? That's enough land to open a web naughty sex camp, at least a nude campground. Be nice to have some more places to go!
Now dont go tryin to reinforce the ideas allready in the back of my mind
Used to go to a nudist camp in southern Wis. In a town called Burlington, was only in my 20's those were the days (as they say) It was great, I remember on the week ends driving up there when we got close to the place (Sun Ray Hills) my heart would be thumpin Id get so excited, had a hard time tryin to keep it down, most everyone else didnt have that problem. Its kinda wierd every one is bare ass naked , and acting like nothing going on. I wanted to screw every woman in that place but to my surprise it didnt work out that way. then we started having kids and that was the end of that.
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QUOTE (hothands @ August 8, 2004, 18:04) QUOTE (sunbuff10 @ August 8, 2004, 17:13) QUOTE (hothands @ August 8, 2004, 14:51) QUOTE (cntrydoc @ August 8, 2004, 13:44)Keeping the trees thinned is not necessarily to stop beetle infestation - although it helps. You thin the trees so the remaining ones get bigger - which means more board lumber versus the stuff that gets chipped up to make OSB (too small to make a 2 x 4). Board lumber = more money. Thinning the trees does make the stand healthier - which seems to stem beetle infestation somewhat, as they target weaker trees.
I have a son that lives in anderson county,SC. leaving in the morning, staying with him while looking at property, want to get around 100 acres or so, and have some chickens, couple pigs and some geese, if Im lucky enough to have a pond. Hate this cold weather up here been here all my life, not actually in chicago aprox. 60 mi. N/W only 11 MI. south of the WI. Border.
100 acres? That's enough land to open a web naughty sex camp, at least a nude campground. Be nice to have some more places to go!
Now dont go tryin to reinforce the ideas allready in the back of my mind
Used to go to a nudist camp in southern Wis. In a town called Burlington, was only in my 20's those were the days (as they say) It was great, I remember on the week ends driving up there when we got close to the place (Sun Ray Hills) my heart would be thumpin Id get so excited, had a hard time tryin to keep it down, most everyone else didnt have that problem. Its kinda wierd every one is bare ass naked , and acting like nothing going on. I wanted to screw every woman in that place but to my surprise it didnt work out that way. then we started having kids and that was the end of that.
If the kids are out of the house nows the time to relive those days!
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Trust me,,Im workin on it, first ya gotta have a wife or g/f that likes to do those things, Im not doin so well in that Dept. YET!!!!!
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August 8, 2004, 18:32 |
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sunbuff10
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QUOTE (hothands @ August 8, 2004, 18:32)Trust me,,Im workin on it, first ya gotta have a wife or g/f that likes to do those things, Im not doin so well in that Dept. YET!!!!!
Woops, sounds like I could have hit on a touchy subject! Hope it all works out for you.
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August 8, 2004, 18:38 |
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No sunbuff10, not a touchy subject at all, Im used to it now, been over a year, I guess its kinda like that land sale thing, the "mineral rights" didn't get conveyed in my marriage license.
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August 8, 2004, 19:02 |
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QUOTE (bawbie @ August 8, 2004, 10:36) but no singing!
hello.this is the voice out of left field. the voice of non-sequetor. the voice of madness.
did anybody get this one? or am i ranting in the dark?
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sunbuff10
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QUOTE (bawbie @ August 10, 2004, 08:39) QUOTE (bawbie @ August 8, 2004, 10:36) but no singing!
hello.this is the voice out of left field. the voice of non-sequetor. the voice of madness.
did anybody get this one? or am i ranting in the dark?
Please, I like the lights on, enlighten me.
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August 10, 2004, 08:46 |
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bawbie
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from "monty python and the holy grail"
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August 10, 2004, 17:47 |
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"'es not quite dead"..........
"'es getting better"............
Thump
"'es died"
I get if bawbi, I get it......
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August 10, 2004, 17:54 |
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jess8in2003
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you ever heard of "Deliverance"?
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August 12, 2004, 14:27 |
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Okay, I haven't checked in on this thread in a few day, just as I thought , we're not talking about real estate anymore are we?
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August 13, 2004, 21:53 |
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sunbuff10
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I didn't do it! Es not my fault!
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August 13, 2004, 22:33 |
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well as long as the thread has already been hijacked, might as well steer it into another car thread, ,,,,, I had a " 55 dodge pick up once, my first husband got so frustrated teaching me to drive it one day, (manual trans, on the steering column, ) Till he screamed at me, you can drive a 4 speed , why can't you drive a three speed?? And then I said..."oh, it's a 3 speed??"
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"Large Tracks of Land"? Is that an euphemism for large bosooms or penis acreage?
I know it takes longer to cover large bosoms with gentle nibbles, nudges, and licks, but Land!?!
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August 17, 2004, 10:37 |
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Wonder where hothands is? I feel a craving for some off the wall saying. Don't know how much longer I can go with out one......
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August 17, 2004, 12:28 |
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QUOTE (curiousgirl @ August 17, 2004, 12:28)Wonder where hothands is? I feel a craving for some off the wall saying. Don't know how much longer I can go with out one......
I hope he didn't buy the farm...Sorry couldn't help myself!
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QUOTE (curiousgirl @ August 17, 2004, 12:28)Wonder where hothands is? I feel a craving for some off the wall saying. Don't know how much longer I can go with out one......
I MISS HIM!! I 've messaged a couple of times,No replies!!!!"
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August 18, 2004, 15:05 |
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isn't he down south staying with a son in law or something?
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August 18, 2004, 17:58 |
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OK time for the search party! I'll jump a little east to get Deye then its on to South Dakota for bcb. After a "sleep" break we can all go to Missouri. And by then we'd probably all have forgotten why the trip started but I'm sure it would be fun.
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August 19, 2004, 12:48 |
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I've been wondering about hothands too. About this search party! You can count me in! Can I bring my big one?
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August 19, 2004, 12:56 |
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Sure but since your cumming from va you might as well grab kb too. No layovers! Save the fun for the group.
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August 19, 2004, 13:03 |
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QUOTE (curiousgirl @ August 19, 2004, 13:03)Sure but since your cumming from va you might as well grab kb too. No layovers! Save the fun for the group.
You in a good mood! More topless roofers today?
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we can organize a search party from Va to SC to look for him there
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August 19, 2004, 13:22 |
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QUOTE (DEye @ August 19, 2004, 13:05) QUOTE (curiousgirl @ August 19, 2004, 13:03)Sure but since your cumming from va you might as well grab kb too. No layovers! Save the fun for the group.
You in a good mood! More topless roofers today?
Damnit, no! I rained all day today. No more roofers for me. They're gone now anyway.
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August 19, 2004, 15:17 |
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sorry it rained today. can't let spelling error like that go unchecked. I know kb is a stickler for gramatics and she may refuse to come along.
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August 19, 2004, 15:18 |
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still no singing!!
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August 19, 2004, 16:31 |
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All hail the return of hothands. We missed you. But you didn't let us start up the search party yet!
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August 24, 2004, 13:44 |
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QUOTE (curiousgirl @ August 19, 2004, 15:18)sorry it rained today. can't let spelling error like that go unchecked. I know kb is a stickler for gramatics and she may refuse to come along.
OK Curious. Please explain the exact meaning of the word "Gramatics." The initials "KB" should be capitalized in the second sentence, and you should use two paragraphs because the topic changed from "rain today" to spelling errors and KB is a bitch. Therefore I shall give this posting a B-. Thank you very much.
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August 24, 2004, 16:14 |
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B- isn't too bad. I've had worse grades.
Now I never said you were a bitch. Just know from previous post that you appreciate proper english and thought I would fix it before you decided that I was too stupid and wouldn't come along on our "search party"
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August 24, 2004, 16:31 |
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Believe me, these days your "slightly improper" grammar is far better than that which I hear from most teenagers. I don't think that grammar is still being taught in middle school and high school.
so it be mucho cool to say whatever in whatever way you like!
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