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Lunatic fringe....
Does exposure to sex and violence through the internet, movies, computer/video games and T.V cause or contribute to anyone's criminal behavior in society?
Can normal but impressionable teens and adults be influenced by exposure to violence and pornography?
Can sex and violence in the media and the internet cause a society to become desensitized, or is there just something wrong with a person, or unusual circumstance like in crimes of passion, that cause criminal behavior?
Is there something wrong with someone to start with, or maybe the lack of early parental controls?
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| August 31, 2006, 08:59 |
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Re: Lunatic fringe....
yes I believe it all can let extreme behavior seem "less extreme" BUT on the same hand dont thing its the tv etc that is to blame. it eventually all comes down to the parents.
I've been around lots of kids all my life.. just the way it is... all watching basically the same stuff. some run around wild shooting strangers in the grocery store after certain movies while others dont. I've noticed the ones that dont usually get a 2 second reminder at some point (or even just the fact the parent was watching with them) that that was just a movie etc. while the wild ones tend to get set in front of the tv as a means to "free up" some time for the parent(s).
even as adults entertainment can sway our moods and thoughts.. i'm sure you have a particular song that is likely to get you pulled over for speeding some day?
overall its the other things that are the deciding factor.. morals, discipline, etc that we learn are what allows us to either not commit that crime or do it. sheltering isnt any more healthy than overexposure.
a bcb thought of the day.. please except our apologies for the inconvenience
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| August 31, 2006, 10:38 |
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Re: Lunatic fringe....
I agree with what BCB said. It does start with the parents. I'm not saying that criminals should use that excuse when they grow up and commit a crime, though. I've had a rough background but I don't beat my kids because of it. That's a different discussion... back to the topic!
Parents play a HUGE role in what their child learns. We all have the capability to know the difference between right and wrong. Whether we choose to do one or the other is something that we teach our children. You can't let a kid kick a dog and stand by doing nothing. You reprimand that child! Same goes for video games and violence in songs and on tv. If they play a game that's violent, tell them that it's not real life! Tell them that it's wrong and that you can't go around doing what you see on tv!
My kids rarely play games that are rated T (teen) but there are a few that I'll let them play. I have to play it first to see what it's about, though. We have had long talks about what they see in them and what they see on tv. They're getting to the point to where they'll say, "I know, mom, it isn't real and we would never do that in real life!" I tell them often... lol...
My kids will NEVER point a toy gun at ANYONE! The only toy guns they have are water guns. Ok, yeah, they point them at each other but I see that as a totally different thing. I don't let them do the whole "bang bang, you're dead" bit when they play with them. They know what a real gun can do! They've been with us when we went shooting. I've told them that the only time a person should EVER aim a gun at another person is if they intend to kill them.... and they better have a damn good reason for doing so! Intruders, attackers, etc..... Some of y'all might think that's wrong but it's the way I grew up and I know right from wrong. My kids will never even handle a weapon unless they're shooting at a target! If they want to go hunting with their uncle when they get a little older, that's fine! That right there will teach them a lot and help them decide if they ever want to do it again. If they do, that's fine, if not, that's fine too.
I'm hoping that this is making sense to at least one person! lol I just think that there are too many excuses out there for bad behavior and it needs to stop! Where it needs to start is with a sit down between parents and their children. Teach them, tell them...... don't be afraid to let them know what harming others can do! What shooting a person can do! Be graphic about it if you have to! Gross them out!! Just as long as they know the effects of their actions and the difference between right and wrong!!!
Dayum, that was long! I'll shut up now 
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| August 31, 2006, 11:21 |
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Re: Lunatic fringe....
And yes, I've caught myself doing 85 mph listening to "flurtin' with disaster."  
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| August 31, 2006, 11:26 |
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Re: Lunatic fringe....
...and Ozzy wasn't singin' "end your life"
the correct lyrics are "ENJOY YOUR LIFE"
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| August 31, 2006, 11:34 |
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funlovingpair
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Frozen Tundra, Minnesota, US
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Re: Lunatic fringe....
Hell as kids we used to go out and play army stuff with our bb guns, and I haven't killed anyone, yet. Does that mean when our men and women come home from a conflict overseas, that means they run around shooting and killing everyone, I think not. Most of time I've found, these types of people are just that self centered, inconsiderate assholes that think everything should revolve around them, and they want to control everything and everyone around them, it makes them feel important, I guess.
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| August 31, 2006, 12:13 |
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Re: Lunatic fringe....
I think it goes both ways. Everything in life is "choice"...choose to murder, choose to let live...choose to speed, choose to obey limits and those choices are based upon upbringing, environment and societal factors BUT everything is so gratuitous nowadays and looks so "cool" that, even if parents watch and instruct, somethings just stay in those little minds and come out later. So, yes, I think the "media" influences kids but, they still have to make the choice as to if it's acceptable or not. And it's not just kids either but grown-ups...get away from Jerry Springer and Dr. Phil and figure out their own situations and they'll see that there ARE "normal" people out there.
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| August 31, 2006, 16:10 |
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Re: Lunatic fringe....
The old saying :Its not The Army that is bad, its the people incharge of it. Same goes for TV and other medias, it ammazes me how they openly show violence even if they have to make it up, for everyone to view, But if a child is left to see two people making love,,,,Oh WOW let the sky fall, take the kids away and put the parents in jail. Morals have been given the back seat to money, and criminals have taken the front seat to our justice system.
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| August 31, 2006, 17:51 |
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40something
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In the Sun, Arizona, US
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Re: Lunatic fringe....
I agree with most said, TV, print adds, and even billboards are responsible for what is "acceptable" in society. Children, even teenagers see what is portrayed and have to be reminded that Bart Simpson's attitude is not acceptable, it is a TV show. Yes it is easier if they don't see that, but odds are they will see that same behavior demonstrated often, so having the discussion with them under controlled circumstances can only help. It is much easier to do it in your own living room then in the mall, when they see the same - in your face - attitude. That way when you as a family see it, you can just reinforce, "can you believe he would talk to his mother that way".
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| August 31, 2006, 22:23 |
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NRG4U
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Beaver City, Nebraska, US
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I don't believe that exposure to violence on TV or P.C.'s or whatever has anything to do with it. People just don't care. I watched Gunsmoke, Rawhide & others when I was a kid, but I never once thought about walking into my scool & blowing away my school mates or going postal in a Walmart or whatever. I think it comes back to the parents. If you let them run all over town & don't enforce the rules.... You reap what you sew 
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| August 31, 2006, 23:07 |
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pepper
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daytona, Florida, US
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I love uncut and unedited Looney Tunes, and I would never try to use a rocket on roller skates or drop someone off of a cliff, etc. Yes all of it does have an influence, and I wish I could say that kids raised right will never go wrong, however, no matter the influences on them,good, bad or indifferent, in the end, the choice is still theirs, as is the responsibility for that choice.
  
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| September 1, 2006, 00:25 |
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Re: Lunatic fringe....
It does have to do with the upbringing, but ultimately, it is the choice of the individual.
If nothing else, we can blame "my space"
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| September 1, 2006, 08:54 |
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Re: Lunatic fringe....
Porno makes me horny, sometimes very horny ...but I've yet to beat the crap outta some guy to get at his dick....
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| September 1, 2006, 11:27 |
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PleasantNight
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Boston, Massachusetts, US
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I do not believe that television causes crime, but I do believe that it desensitises people to the impact of violence and crime. People see criminals treated as 'heroic' and start looking to emulate them rather than abhor them.
I could be wrong.
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