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The gifts we give...
So I'm feelin' a little philosophical this morning...
What's the true purpose of gifts and giving? Are there really any true acts of giving that are completely selfless?
Can you give and then not give it another thought, or do you need to give in order to gain the self satisfaction?
Do you give because it makes YOU feel good to give, and if so, is it still a true gift because you have some self serving reason to give?
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August 18, 2006, 05:30 |
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GG317
60 / male Bowl of Granola, Massachusetts, US
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Re: The gifts we give...
Philisophical? Gee, Chazz I think someone may have substituted your regular coffee for decaf... I read that five times and all I can come up with is, "Wow, that's way too deep for me to answer"...
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August 18, 2006, 10:00 |
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Re: The gifts we give...
I give to others because I care about them. Not on holidays, but just because I can.
Yes, it does make me feel good most of the time, but this is not the reason.
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August 18, 2006, 10:14 |
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nykitten
54 / female Pawling, New York, US
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Im a natural "giver" and a "pleaser" its just who I am.....I just like to see people smile!....
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August 18, 2006, 11:11 |
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funlovingpair
59 / couple Frozen Tundra, Minnesota, US
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I give and give often. But I only give the gift of love and friendship . If that isn't enough, then oh well. As for the material things, they can be replaced with newer better model at any time.
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August 18, 2006, 12:02 |
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Re: The gifts we give...
I once heard that if a man gives a woman flowers he is either in trouble or he wants something.
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August 18, 2006, 12:14 |
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Re: The gifts we give...
First of all, a "gift" covers a wide scope. It could be a new car at Christmas, if one can afford it. I can also be a smile, which is a more special gift. The gifts I give are to make other people happy. I don't do them for myself but as it happens, it returns an even greater gift back! It warms the heart to make another person happy if you really mean it. I never ever expect anything in return. Hell, nobody knows what to get me for the holidays because there's nothing I want! Except to be together and remember the people that are gone.
I get so sick of hearing people say, "well, I got him something for his birthday but he didn't get me anything!" Or, "I called him on his birthday and he didn't call to wish me a happy birthday!" You know what? That's them! It's not you! Be yourself, give without expecting anything in return and, believe me, you'll be a lot happier!
It just feels good..... that's your reward. And it's not a selfish one!
Just my 2 cents
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August 18, 2006, 13:32 |
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"It's better to give, than recieve". A gift of thyself is treasured in the heart. Materialism of giving is fine, but as i said "A gift of thyself in treasured in the heart".
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August 18, 2006, 17:49 |
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Re: The gifts we give...
QUOTE (Chazzy @ August 18, 2006, 05:30)So I'm feelin' a little philosophical this morning...
What's the true purpose of gifts and giving? Are there really any true acts of giving that are completely selfless?
Can you give and then not give it another thought, or do you need to give in order to gain the self satisfaction?
Do you give because it makes YOU feel good to give, and if so, is it still a true gift because you have some self serving reason to give?
Do we give because of the good feeling we get from being a giver? Do we have a self-serving need to be
be a good selfless person? Can we really "give" without it a small part being about us as well as the reciever?
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December 21, 2006, 12:37 |
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Re: The gifts we give...
I really don't like all the expectations people have. Co-workers expect you give them something (like little gift cards to a restaurant) although they are jerks. Kids wanting the moon. I use to go to the homeless shelter on turkey day and Christmas and help out those less fortunate. That made me very happy. I'd get there early in the AM (around 4am) and help get the meals started and decorate the place. Then be home by mid-morning to spend time with the family. I enjoyed being around folks that also gave their time to help those less fortunate. At least the homeless appreciated what you were doing for them.
You know, that reminds me. Since I'm now here for the holidays due to a change of plans (thanks mother nature) I'll go and volunteer again this year.
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December 21, 2006, 12:44 |
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NRG4U
63 / male Beaver City, Nebraska, US
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I like giving what I do mostly for the young ones, they are the ones that just love Christmas,me, I could care less about the gifts, I just like being around the whole family. I also know that there may not be many more christmas's with my parents, who are 81 & 73 years old. I do some voluteer work too. I donated a deer to "Hunters for the Hungry" & I will be serving meals to the homeless & hungry with that deer & others game that has been donated from other hunters
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December 21, 2006, 13:14 |
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Re: The gifts we give...
I've been doing some more thinkin' on this(Ohhh gawd!)...
Ya know, I keep thinking back to a time when I realized that sometimes, the real, true gift, actually comes from the receiver...I remember how my parents always wanted to do things for me, help me out when I was in need, but I wouldn't allow them to. I was an adult, independent, self sufficient, and capable of handling some "bad times" on my own, I didn't want to worry them, and I'd much rather give to them and sure as hell didn't want to take from them.
It was during one of my bad times that I did come to understand that even though their help was the last thing I wanted, it was something they wanted to do more than anything.
I had to learn to accept gifts, something I was never good at...I had to learn to accept when they wanted to give...because it's the giving that makes them happy.
So...maybe "true" gifts come from the receiver, not from the giver...we all like to give, because it feels good to give, it's reaffirmation that we are good people...but I've since learned that even if I don't need or want my parents, (or anyone else's help) I will at times ask for it anyway, because they need to give, and it makes them feel very good about themselves, and that in itself is a true gift.
Okay...anyone kinda know what I"m trying to say and can maybe phrase and explain it any better?
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December 21, 2006, 14:00 |
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Re: Re: The gifts we give...
QUOTE (Chazzy @ December 21, 2006, 14:00)I've been doing some more thinkin' on this(Ohhh gawd!)...
Ya know, I keep thinking back to a time when I realized that sometimes, the real, true gift, actually comes from the receiver...I remember how my parents always wanted to do things for me, help me out when I was in need, but I wouldn't allow them to. I was an adult, independent, self sufficient, and capable of handling some "bad times" on my own, I didn't want to worry them, and I'd much rather give to them and sure as hell didn't want to take from them.
It was during one of my bad times that I did come to understand that even though their help was the last thing I wanted, it was something they wanted to do more than anything.
I had to learn to accept gifts, something I was never good at...I had to learn to accept when they wanted to give...because it's the giving that makes them happy.
So...maybe "true" gifts come from the receiver, not from the giver...we all like to give, because it feels good to give, it's reaffirmation that we are good people...but I've since learned that even if I don't need or want my parents, (or anyone else's help) I will at times ask for it anyway, because they need to give, and it makes them feel very good about themselves, and that in itself is a true gift.
Okay...anyone kinda know what I"m trying to say and can maybe phrase and explain it any better?
I think what you are trying to say is that, we should allow those who wants to give to be a "blessing" to the receiver (recepient). People give or help others to be a blessing...
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December 21, 2006, 14:23 |
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Re: Re: The gifts we give...
QUOTE (Chazzy @ December 21, 2006, 14:00)I've been doing some more thinkin' on this(Ohhh gawd!)...
Ya know, I keep thinking back to a time when I realized that sometimes, the real, true gift, actually comes from the receiver...I remember how my parents always wanted to do things for me, help me out when I was in need, but I wouldn't allow them to. I was an adult, independent, self sufficient, and capable of handling some "bad times" on my own, I didn't want to worry them, and I'd much rather give to them and sure as hell didn't want to take from them.
It was during one of my bad times that I did come to understand that even though their help was the last thing I wanted, it was something they wanted to do more than anything.
I had to learn to accept gifts, something I was never good at...I had to learn to accept when they wanted to give...because it's the giving that makes them happy.
So...maybe "true" gifts come from the receiver, not from the giver...we all like to give, because it feels good to give, it's reaffirmation that we are good people...but I've since learned that even if I don't need or want my parents, (or anyone else's help) I will at times ask for it anyway, because they need to give, and it makes them feel very good about themselves, and that in itself is a true gift.
Okay...anyone kinda know what I"m trying to say and can maybe phrase and explain it any better?
I completey understand what you are saying. My belief is that gifts don't have to be purchased, they can be actions too. As we met with my Mom's hospice nurse yesterday she said, "You would not imagine the things I see when I go into people's homes while working with those that are dying, what you three girls are doing for your Mom is the greatest gift of all..." I said, "She gave to us our entire lives through our actions, now it is our turn."
We have only days left with my Mom now and although we will likely be burying her through the holidays I'm certain we nothing we could have purchased for her over the years can compare to having her family around her during this time...there is love, there is peace, and she will pass away with grace.
Merry Christmas all of you!!!
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December 22, 2006, 09:41 |
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Re: The gifts we give...
Seeing all her daughters as a whole and good family, is the best gift ya'all could give her.
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December 22, 2006, 09:49 |
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Re: Re: The gifts we give...
QUOTE (MoonHowler @ August 18, 2006, 13:32)First of all, a "gift" covers a wide scope. It could be a new car at Christmas, if one can afford it. I can also be a smile, which is a more special gift. The gifts I give are to make other people happy. I don't do them for myself but as it happens, it returns an even greater gift back! It warms the heart to make another person happy if you really mean it. I never ever expect anything in return. Hell, nobody knows what to get me for the holidays because there's nothing I want! Except to be together and remember the people that are gone.
I get so sick of hearing people say, "well, I got him something for his birthday but he didn't get me anything!" Or, "I called him on his birthday and he didn't call to wish me a happy birthday!" You know what? That's them! It's not you! Be yourself, give without expecting anything in return and, believe me, you'll be a lot happier!
It just feels good..... that's your reward. And it's not a selfish one!
Just my 2 cents
that is worth at least a nickel...and the best advice.
sincerely give without expecting anything in return...and happiness will permeate your life.
material stuff is just stuff after all..
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December 22, 2006, 10:21 |
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Re: Re: Re: The gifts we give...
QUOTE (Juilianna @ December 22, 2006, 09:41) QUOTE (Chazzy @ December 21, 2006, 14:00)I've been doing some more thinkin' on this(Ohhh gawd!)...
Ya know, I keep thinking back to a time when I realized that sometimes, the real, true gift, actually comes from the receiver...I remember how my parents always wanted to do things for me, help me out when I was in need, but I wouldn't allow them to. I was an adult, independent, self sufficient, and capable of handling some "bad times" on my own, I didn't want to worry them, and I'd much rather give to them and sure as hell didn't want to take from them.
It was during one of my bad times that I did come to understand that even though their help was the last thing I wanted, it was something they wanted to do more than anything.
I had to learn to accept gifts, something I was never good at...I had to learn to accept when they wanted to give...because it's the giving that makes them happy.
So...maybe "true" gifts come from the receiver, not from the giver...we all like to give, because it feels good to give, it's reaffirmation that we are good people...but I've since learned that even if I don't need or want my parents, (or anyone else's help) I will at times ask for it anyway, because they need to give, and it makes them feel very good about themselves, and that in itself is a true gift.
Okay...anyone kinda know what I"m trying to say and can maybe phrase and explain it any better?
I completey understand what you are saying. My belief is that gifts don't have to be purchased, they can be actions too. As we met with my Mom's hospice nurse yesterday she said, "You would not imagine the things I see when I go into people's homes while working with those that are dying, what you three girls are doing for your Mom is the greatest gift of all..." I said, "She gave to us our entire lives through our actions, now it is our turn."
We have only days left with my Mom now and although we will likely be burying her through the holidays I'm certain we nothing we could have purchased for her over the years can compare to having her family around her during this time...there is love, there is peace, and she will pass away with grace.
Merry Christmas all of you!!!
Merry Chrstmas to you Juilianna...and know that your gift to your Mom is the love and joy you brought to her throughout her life...
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December 22, 2006, 10:24 |
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lizonya
64 / couple lake elsinore, California, US
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Re: The gifts we give...
i like to give gifts that have a little of a reflection of my style in them. something that i think they would enjoy and remember me by.
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December 22, 2006, 13:28 |
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