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I would like to know from experienced swingers , what you do to protect yourself from STD's. Not only intercourse, but BJ's, birth control (in our situation he has vasectomy) etc - all aspects.
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| May 18, 2006, 23:34 |
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Something I've wondered too...it seems you hear all about the exciting and erotic side of swinging , I'd like to hear about the saftey and quidelines as well.
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| May 19, 2006, 05:53 |
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I think thats one of the major issues that couples come across when they decide they wanna exspierence what swingings like not to mention when its a couple your just meeting how do you know yoou have there telling the truth that there clean, has been fixed etc,I guess its maybe just a chance your taking and youll find out in the end weather it was the wrong one or the right one.Or don't even act on it all together.
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| May 19, 2006, 08:24 |
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Re: swingers
more excellent issues to explore girls!
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| May 19, 2006, 08:37 |
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nykitten
54 / female
Pawling, New York, US
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| May 19, 2006, 18:06 |
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Unfortunately, so many "safety" relate products are also inconvenient, messy, dulls sensation, etc. I am just wondering if there are alternatives - can you ask the other to be tested before hand - or is that intrusive?
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| May 19, 2006, 18:43 |
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nykitten
54 / female
Pawling, New York, US
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QUOTE (CKTC @ May 19, 2006, 18:43)Unfortunately, so many "safety" relate products are also inconvenient, messy, dulls sensation, etc. I am just wondering if there are alternatives - can you ask the other to be tested before hand - or is that intrusive?
Its your life..
Would you be insulted, or more relieved if your were asked?......
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| May 19, 2006, 18:49 |
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There are some " swinging clubs" that require frequent testing for membership.
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| May 19, 2006, 19:13 |
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| May 20, 2006, 08:07 |
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| May 20, 2006, 08:22 |
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| May 20, 2006, 11:28 |
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| May 20, 2006, 12:37 |
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Hmmmm.....vintage merchandise, with original packaging! I'll make a bid on that!
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| May 21, 2006, 10:55 |
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I might just have to compete with you for that one, Chazzy, or, we could pool our resources and use it together!
  
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| May 21, 2006, 11:05 |
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Are you two try'in to kill me? Just thinking about the two of you is soooo dangerous!
QUOTE (pepper @ May 21, 2006, 11:05)
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| May 21, 2006, 15:48 |
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I've done a few searches with keyword phrases like " safe sex and swinging " and really didn't find that much useful info out there. I'll read a little more on it Monday when I have more time...but I'm surprised at the lack of info on this!
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| May 21, 2006, 18:10 |
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Thank you Chazzy!
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| May 21, 2006, 21:43 |
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I've been doing some reading this morning, and found that using the search phrase "Safety guidelines for Swingers " gave me a few good results...I found one article with a very good suggestion on one site and did a copy and paste of it here.
"As a couple... We each have a STD/HIV scan several times a year. Our practice is to have it done at different times. As a Lifestyle Couple, this allows us to get a report more often that is likely reflecting both of our conditions."
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| May 22, 2006, 08:23 |
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nykitten
54 / female
Pawling, New York, US
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| May 22, 2006, 09:57 |
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nykitten
54 / female
Pawling, New York, US
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Theoretical and Documented Risk of HIV Transmission During Oral-Vaginal Contact
Theoretical Risks
Cunnilingus carries a theoretical risk of HIV transmission for the insertive partner (the person who is licking or sucking the vaginal area) because infected vaginal fluids and blood can get into the mouth. (This includes, but is not limited to, menstrual blood). Likewise, there is a theoretical risk of HIV transmission during cunnilingus for the receptive partner (the person who is having her vagina licked or sucked) if infected blood from oral sores or bleeding gums comes in contact with vulvar or vaginal cuts or sores.
Documented Risks
The risk of HIV transmission during cunnilingus is extremely low compared to vaginal and anal sex . However, there have been a few cases of HIV transmission most likely resulting from oral-vaginal sex.
Theoretical and Documented Risk of HIV Transmission During Oral-Anal Contact
Theoretical Risks
Anilingus carries a theoretical risk of transmission for the insertive partner (the person who is licking or sucking the anus) if there is exposure to infected blood, either through bloody
fecal matter (bodily waste) or cuts/sores in the anal area. Anilingus carries a theoretical risk to the receptive partner (the person who is being licked/sucked) if infected blood in saliva comes in contact with anal/rectal lining.
Documented Risks
There has been one published case of HIV transmission associated with oral-anal sexual contact.
Other STDs Can Also Be Transmitted From Oral Sex
Scientists have documented a number of other sexually transmitted diseases that have also been transmitted through oral sex . Herpes, syphilis, gonorrhea, genital warts (HPV), intestinal parasites (amebiasis), and hepatitis A are examples of STDs which can be transmitted during oral sex with an infected partner. For more information see Oral Sex and STDs Fact Sheet. Reducing the Risk of HIV Transmission Through Oral Sex The consequences of HIV infection are life-long, life-threatening, and extremely serious. You can lower any already low risk of getting HIV from oral sex by using latex condoms each and every time. For cunnilingus or anilingus, plastic food wrap, a condom cut open, or a dental dam can serve as a physical barrier to prevent transmission of HIV and many other STDs. Because anal and vaginal sex are much riskier and because most individuals who engage in unprotected (i.e. without a condom) oral sex also engage in unprotected anal and/or vaginal sex, the exact proportion of HIV infections attributable to oral sex alone is unknown, but is likely to be very small. This has led some people to believe that oral sex is completely safe. It is not.
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| May 22, 2006, 09:58 |
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nykitten
54 / female
Pawling, New York, US
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| May 22, 2006, 10:00 |
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nykitten
54 / female
Pawling, New York, US
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How you cannot get HIV.
HIV infection doesn't "just happen." You can't "catch" it like a cold or flu. Unlike cold or flu viruses, HIV is not spread by coughs or sneezes. Again, you get HIV by coming in contact with infected blood, semen, or vaginal fluids from another person.
You won't get HIV through everyday contact with infected people at school, work, home, or anywhere else.
You won't get HIV from clothes, drinking fountains, phones, or toilet seats. It isn't passed on by things like forks, cups or other objects that someone who is infected with the virus has used.
You won't get HIV from eating food prepared by an infected person.
You won't get HIV from a mosquito bite. HIV does not live in a mosquito, and it is not transmitted through a mosquito's bite like other germs, such as the ones that cause malaria. You won't get it from bedbugs, lice, flies, or other insects, either.
You won't get HIV from contact with sweat, saliva, or tears.
You won't get HIV from a simple kiss. Most scientists agree that although transmission of HIV through deep or prolonged kissing may be possible because of potential blood contact, it would be unlikely.
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| May 22, 2006, 10:03 |
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nykitten
54 / female
Pawling, New York, US
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You can get HIV from sexual intercourse.
HIV can be spread through sexual intercourse, from male to male, male to female, female to male, and from female to female.
HIV is sexually transmitted, and HIV is not the only infection that is passed through intimate sexual contact. Other sexually transmitted diseases (STDs), such as gonorrhea, syphilis, herpes, and chlamydia, can also be contracted through anal, vaginal, and oral intercourse. If you have on of these STDs and engage in sexual behaviors that can transmit HIV, you are at greater risk of getting infected with HIV.
HIV may be in an infected person's blood, semen, or vaginal secretions. HIV can enter the body through cuts or sores in the skin. HIV can also enter the body through the moist lining of the vagina, penis, rectum, or even the mouth, in which case cuts and sores in these areas greatly increase the risk of infection. Some of these cuts or sores are so small you may not even know they're there. Anal intercourse with an infected person is one of the ways HIV has been most frequently transmitted. Other forms of sexual intercourse, including oral sex , can spread it as well. During oral sex , a person who takes semen, blood, or vaginal secretions into their mouth is at risk of becoming infected.
Many infected people have no symptoms and have not been tested. If you have unprotected sex with one of them, you put yourself in danger. Also, the more sex partners you have, the greater your chances of encountering one or more who are infected and of becoming infected yourself. The only sure way to avoid infection through sex is to abstain from sexual intercourse or engage in sexual intercourse only with someone who is not infected and only has sex with you. Latex condoms have been shown to prevent HIV infection and other sexually transmitted diseases. But you have to use condoms correctly every time you have sex - vaginal, anal, or oral. condoms made of plastics such as polyurethane should also be highly effective. condoms made of lambskin, however, do not offer good protection.
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| May 22, 2006, 10:04 |
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nykitten
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I hope all of this helps a bit....Only goes to show that using condoms are your number one way to protect yourself!....As well as getting tested and keeping it exclusive........
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| May 22, 2006, 10:07 |
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I sent you a link, all topics of swinging are addressed there by experienced swingers who own and run a swingers club....they reallly seem to cover everything, pretty good site, easy to read and navigate....
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| May 22, 2006, 10:13 |
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Thank you ladies!! 
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| May 23, 2006, 01:10 |
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funlovingpair
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I suppose that one option would be like the brothels in Nevada, the women there will not touch a guy unless he has a condom on. Hand jobs, blow jobs, etc... 
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| May 23, 2006, 10:56 |
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