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newbie1011
62 / female
The Shore, New Jersey, US
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For all the intelligent minds out there.
I have been looking up WAYS TO LOWER THE ELECTRIC BILL.
I have seen the usual stuff for the most part. However there is one thing that I just don't understand. They just give a list for the most part, but a few things they explain why doing what they recommend will save energy... But I have seen on at least 4 websites that if you leave your house for any extended length of time, one thing you should UNPLUG is your LAMPS. Lamps? I don't understand and none of the sites explain. I studied electricity in school and understand how a circuit works. If you turn of a switch you are essentially breaking the circuit. So why would you need to UNPLUG? Maybe on certain electronic style lamps there might be a feature that draws electricity but these sites say unplug ALL LAMPS.
This is not a safety issue like a short. We are talking ENERGY savings here. So do any of you know why they would recommend this. Did I miss something in my class about circuits? 
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| July 7, 2014, 05:46 |
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Freensleazy
65 / male
State of Confusion, Pennsylvania, US
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Re: For all the intelligent minds out there.
No Newbs, I've read several things like that. I dont know how true they are, but basically, anything you dont use on a regular basis should be unplugged until you're ready to use it. I've never seen lamps mentioned, but phone chargers, printers, blow dryers, razors, toasters etc. Could just be some tree hugger's opinion, but I've read it quite a few times.
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| July 7, 2014, 12:40 |
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sybianwatcher1
49 / male
Kamloops, British Columbia, Canada
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Re: For all the intelligent minds out there.
Newbs.....Isn't it obvious ?
When Kam visits , the power bill goes up.
When Kams gone the power bill REALLY goes up.!
Maybe ...just maybe..If you could handle the weaker output, the softer touch, and the felling of lesser satisfaction..
You may want to try battery operated sex toys .
You may find a massive savings in your power bill.
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| July 7, 2014, 14:13 |
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newbie1011
62 / female
The Shore, New Jersey, US
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Re: For all the intelligent minds out there.
All the power tools, I mean toys are not left plugged in.
And I get the tree huger stuff but one of the sites was from the Texas electric company.Okay, maybe the fact that it was Texas should have told me to ignore it.But when I saw it on 4 separate sites it had me thinking I must be missing something.Maybe they all just forget there is an on off switch on lamps? I guess the mystery will continue.
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| July 7, 2014, 17:59 |
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Re: For all the intelligent minds out there.
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| July 7, 2014, 18:08 |
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wandering5tar
53 / male
London, England, UK
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Re: Re: For all the intelligent minds out there.
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| July 7, 2014, 18:13 |
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sybianwatcher1
49 / male
Kamloops, British Columbia, Canada
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Re: Re: For all the intelligent minds out there.
QUOTE (newbie1011 @ July 7, 2014, 17:59)All the power tools, I mean toys are not left plugged in.
And I get the tree huger stuff but one of the sites was from the Texas electric company.Okay, maybe the fact that it was Texas should have told me to ignore it.But when I saw it on 4 separate sites it had me thinking I must be missing something.Maybe they all just forget there is an on off switch on lamps? I guess the mystery will continue.
Well I've wired many buildings...and none have burned down...Thats a lie, one of my Parents barns did, but the ignition source remains a mystery.
Your main panel has a positive and neutral wire, that goes through a breaker , and a smaller wire carries the lower voltage to the plug.
The lamp is wired so that the switch cuts the high, 110 voltage and stops the bulb from burning...But...in most cases the neutral or lower voltage is still connected to the appliance....I'm not an engineer or a electrician , but there is a low volt charge still connected.
Having said that...I always thought that with the 110 broken circuit, there would be no power draw.
But I've been known to be wrong....a lot.
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| July 7, 2014, 18:17 |
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newbie1011
62 / female
The Shore, New Jersey, US
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Re: For all the intelligent minds out there.
I think you miss understood me. I understand why a TV, Converter box, Chargers etc. need to be unplugged. Anything with a clock or electronic setting will still draw power in small amounts.Sometimes just to keep settings like a router or modem or cable box it still draws power in a standby type mode.
It's the LAMP that I am questioning. Why a lamp? A standard lamp works by making a circuit connection.It goes on when you complete the circuit and off when the circuit is broken.There for, I see no reason to disconnect it from the wall outlet as it says on at least 4 web sites.And I can not find an explanation anywhere.
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| July 7, 2014, 18:19 |
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oldcowboy666
74 / male
bennett, Colorado, US
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Re: For all the intelligent minds out there.
If it has wires on I Don't touch it. 
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| July 7, 2014, 19:41 |
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wandering5tar
53 / male
London, England, UK
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Re: Re: For all the intelligent minds out there.
QUOTE (oldcowboy666 @ July 7, 2014, 19:41)If it has wires on I Don't touch it.
Underwired bras ARE tricky...
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| July 7, 2014, 20:38 |
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kamarel
60 / male
Alexandria, Louisiana, US
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Re: Re: For all the intelligent minds out there.
QUOTE (newbie1011 @ July 7, 2014, 18:19)I think you miss understood me. I understand why a TV, Converter box, Chargers etc. need to be unplugged. Anything with a clock or electronic setting will still draw power in small amounts.Sometimes just to keep settings like a router or modem or cable box it still draws power in a standby type mode.
It's the LAMP that I am questioning. Why a lamp? A standard lamp works by making a circuit connection.It goes on when you complete the circuit and off when the circuit is broken.There for, I see no reason to disconnect it from the wall outlet as it says on at least 4 web sites.And I can not find an explanation anywhere.
I'm w/Syb on the circuit. 110 ac, killed at the wall, should disconnect an on/off lamp. it shouldn't vamp extra power. You can always shutoff the breaker, but that should make no difference. A dead circuit is a dead circuit. As far as power toys, we could always do it the old fashioned way. ropes and hand cranks.
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| July 7, 2014, 21:36 |
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sybianwatcher1
49 / male
Kamloops, British Columbia, Canada
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Re: Re: Re: For all the intelligent minds out there.
QUOTE (kamarel @ July 7, 2014, 21:36) QUOTE (newbie1011 @ July 7, 2014, 18:19)I think you miss understood me. I understand why a TV, Converter box, Chargers etc. need to be unplugged. Anything with a clock or electronic setting will still draw power in small amounts.Sometimes just to keep settings like a router or modem or cable box it still draws power in a standby type mode.
It's the LAMP that I am questioning. Why a lamp? A standard lamp works by making a circuit connection.It goes on when you complete the circuit and off when the circuit is broken.There for, I see no reason to disconnect it from the wall outlet as it says on at least 4 web sites.And I can not find an explanation anywhere.
I'm w/Syb on the circuit. 110 ac, killed at the wall, should disconnect an on/off lamp. it shouldn't vamp extra power. You can always shutoff the breaker, but that should make no difference. A dead circuit is a dead circuit. As far as power toys, we could always do it the old fashioned way. ropes and hand cranks.
Yah but the gear ratio is all wrong....Plus things tend to get a little tangled in them.
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| July 7, 2014, 22:07 |
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newbie1011
62 / female
The Shore, New Jersey, US
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Re: Re: Re: Re: For all the intelligent minds out there.
QUOTE (sybianwatcher1 @ July 7, 2014, 22:07) QUOTE (kamarel @ July 7, 2014, 21:36) QUOTE (newbie1011 @ July 7, 2014, 18:19)I think you miss understood me. I understand why a TV, Converter box, Chargers etc. need to be unplugged. Anything with a clock or electronic setting will still draw power in small amounts.Sometimes just to keep settings like a router or modem or cable box it still draws power in a standby type mode.
It's the LAMP that I am questioning. Why a lamp? A standard lamp works by making a circuit connection.It goes on when you complete the circuit and off when the circuit is broken.There for, I see no reason to disconnect it from the wall outlet as it says on at least 4 web sites.And I can not find an explanation anywhere.
I'm w/Syb on the circuit. 110 ac, killed at the wall, should disconnect an on/off lamp. it shouldn't vamp extra power. You can always shutoff the breaker, but that should make no difference. A dead circuit is a dead circuit. As far as power toys, we could always do it the old fashioned way. ropes and hand cranks.
Yah but the gear ratio is all wrong....Plus things tend to get a little tangled in them.
NO! NO! NO!
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| July 9, 2014, 01:29 |
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JLee3D
57 / female
Assume the Position, New York, US
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Re: For all the intelligent minds out there.
New a you are correct, referring to old fashioned , standard lamps do not use energy when switched off. Switches are mechanical and actually break the flow of electrons. New TVs etc are another animal. Yes there is power in the line feeding but THAT is not what is causing your power bill increase. I actually have made some changes and dropped my bill by about 30%. Message/email. me if you want to know more it may/may not work for you
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| July 10, 2014, 04:21 |
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newbie1011
62 / female
The Shore, New Jersey, US
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Re: For all the intelligent minds out there.
Thanks JLee. Sure, I always love new ideas. I think people are misunderstanding me however. I am always up for new ideas as to cutting my bills. I also understand technology quite well. Considering I was in the TV industry and I had a father that owned an appliance store. But I just didn't and still don't understand why at least 4 websites recommended UNPLUGGING LAMPS. They had NO EXPLANATION even though all the other things made sense or were explained in detail. One site I found yesterday had a much better idea. They recommended that you go over to every lamp or ceiling light that has more than one bulb and unscrew at least one bulb to see if you find you don't need as many as you are currently using. Although I remember reading one article that said even if you do that you are using electricity because there is a circuit connection made even if one bulb is plugged in. I however see it as separate fixtures on one switch so I don't agree and feel it would definitely reduce the power use. I have also read a lot about the new LED vs the Fluorescent bulbs we all switched to. The LED's are much more efficient and not as bad for the environment and better on the environment, from a manufacturing standpoint as well.
So YES please send me your ideas and still waiting for an explanation, that I don't think exists regarding unplugging the old fashioned lamps.
JLEE Please send it to Kam being he is a VIP and you can message him. I will get it from him. Besides he will love getting an email from you especially if you include something naughty for him .lol
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| July 10, 2014, 09:50 |
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kamarel
60 / male
Alexandria, Louisiana, US
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Re: Re: For all the intelligent minds out there.
QUOTE (newbie1011 @ July 10, 2014, 09:50)Thanks JLee. Sure, I always love new ideas...
JLEE Please send it to Kam being he is a VIP and you can message him. I will get it from him. Besides he will love getting an email from you especially if you include something naughty for him .lol
Naughty, new ideas. I'M IN!!
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| July 10, 2014, 11:52 |
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ashkats
65 / couple
crystal falls, Michigan, US
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Re: For all the intelligent minds out there.
some reason I keep doing blanks....
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| July 10, 2014, 22:27 |
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