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Iwant2kssuallovr
62 / female
Bendover, Florida, US
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I DON'T KNOW?
So, do you apologize when you know you are right, and the other person lied? And, there were witnesses, but the other person is in authority?
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| May 17, 2013, 15:39 |
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Re: I DON'T KNOW?
HELL NO!!!!!!!!!
Not unless you say "I'm sorry that you're wrong".
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| May 17, 2013, 15:51 |
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JenTX
47 / female
East, Texas, US
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Re: I DON'T KNOW?
Nope, but I'm stubborn like that.
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| May 17, 2013, 16:23 |
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ashkats
65 / couple
crystal falls, Michigan, US
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Re: I DON'T KNOW?
never... is my vote, it helps them get away with the lie.
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| May 17, 2013, 16:39 |
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newbie1011
62 / female
The Shore, New Jersey, US
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Re: I DON'T KNOW?
Do I really even have to say the answer to this? HELL NO!!!
Not just when someone lies but just when someone abuses power it is wrong.
I hate when people think because they have a position of authority they have the right to be abusive. Yes I see it as abusive. The worst offenders, and I have to say almost never to me but, I have seen it many times,are court judges.I think some of them have watched to much Judge Judy. In reality I find it sad that so many seem to think they can treat some people the way I have witnessed. Many times not following the law themselves.That being said, I think you are just an idiot to piss off the judge when they have that much power if you have a way to avoid it.There are times you pick your battles.
For the record I had one cop lie about something that really was an issue with his idiot wife and myself (His wife started a fight with me when I was pregnant no less.)then he decided to abuse his power and threaten me. He expected me to freak out and get scared. It almost cost him his job when I got done with him.He nor his wife ever fucked with me again.I don't need no stinken badge.
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| May 17, 2013, 17:32 |
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Iwant2kssuallovr
62 / female
Bendover, Florida, US
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Re: Re: I DON'T KNOW?
QUOTE (freensleazy @ May 17, 2013, 15:51)HELL NO!!!!!!!!!
Not unless you say "I'm sorry that you're wrong".
I don't think my mouth and/or my brain would be able to work together to produce an apology. I would get into only more trouble! It seems I would deal with the consequences first. So far, I've been honest, explained this is NOT what was said, but I am big enough to move on. ARE YOU?
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| May 17, 2013, 17:42 |
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oldcowboy666
74 / male
bennett, Colorado, US
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Re: I DON'T KNOW?
Not me and I have lost jobs like this, but will not cover for someone when they are wrong!!!!!!!!! Old cowboy
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| May 17, 2013, 19:59 |
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yepper12
73 / male
Jeffersonville, Pennsylvania, US
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Re: I DON'T KNOW?
Noway in hell
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| May 17, 2013, 22:43 |
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Re: Re: I DON'T KNOW?
QUOTE (freensleazy @ May 17, 2013, 15:51)HELL NO!!!!!!!!!
Not unless you say "I'm sorry that you're wrong".
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| May 18, 2013, 01:25 |
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GG317
60 / male
Bowl of Granola, Massachusetts, US
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Re: I DON'T KNOW?
Depends...Does the apology get you out of trouble with the authority? An apology can be said that's just as empty as the lie that perpetrated it's outcome. You just have to have a really good sarcastic streak like me when you say it...
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| May 18, 2013, 01:41 |
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Iwant2kssuallovr
62 / female
Bendover, Florida, US
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Re: Re: I DON'T KNOW?
QUOTE (GG317 @ May 18, 2013, 01:41)Depends...Does the apology get you out of trouble with the authority? An apology can be said that's just as empty as the lie that perpetrated it's outcome. You just have to have a really good sarcastic streak like me when you say it...
As I said, I would only get into more trouble! And no, I will probably always have animosity between myself, the person who caused the conflict, and this other dude, who I didn't even speak with.
When you say, "Out of trouble"... they lied! How can they ever have any credibility, or be trusted? I've heard this shit before. "It won't be written down", then it gets written down. A career can be ruined by a unhappy troll person, fuck head on a power trip. I'm pretty sure I am marked employee.
I am still not sure how this militant shit head, who was at our location for training could be so Frigg 'in confrontational with everyone, and yet she was either "shaking" in fear, or having a tantrum, because of me? Not sure? I think if she dishes it out she should be able to take it. I was actually holding my tongue with her.
Life goes one.. Thanks!
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| May 18, 2013, 02:17 |
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Re: I DON'T KNOW?
This won't be of much help I suppose, but be thankful you are saner than she, and smart enough to out-think her.
I do resolve most things with a slight smile and a calm voice, unless I'm being mistaken for a doormat, then I can stomp a foot and yell 'boo! ' just to get that issue straight.
Someone who is to be considered a confrontational type, is a very insecure person possibly with a mild to moderate personality disorder...ya can't reason with them, just manage your interactions with them by staying in control of yourself, which usually drives them nuts.
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| May 18, 2013, 14:31 |
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Re: Re: I DON'T KNOW?
QUOTE (Chazzy @ May 18, 2013, 14:31)This won't be of much help I suppose, but be thankful you are saner than she, and smart enough to out-think her.
I do resolve most things with a slight smile and a calm voice, unless I'm being mistaken for a doormat, then I can stomp a foot and yell 'boo! ' just to get that issue straight.
Someone who is to be considered a confrontational type, is a very insecure person possibly with a mild to moderate personality disorder...ya can't reason with them, just manage your interactions with them by staying in control of yourself, which usually drives them nuts.[/quote
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| May 19, 2013, 00:01 |
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newbie1011
62 / female
The Shore, New Jersey, US
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Re: I DON'T KNOW?
I have been lucky to work with mostly great people in my life, however there seems to be one or two crazies that you came across that no mater what you do or don't do they will still be crazy. I try to take the attitude of "It's their issue and I refuse to make it mine." Once in a while what they do can effect you and it leaves you no choice. I know that honesty, my reputation and work ethic has always played in my favor. I have gone head to head with some so called powerful executives both as bosses and clients. I think Chazzy had it right when she said nice but no doormat type of approach.I don't normally let people rattle me. Sometimes you get people that try. If you let them you will lose. You have to stay professional and deal with the issue as an adult and a professional. Leave all the personal stuff out of the issue.Never lower yourself to the level of a person that is crazy or just fucked up and nasty. It does no good anyway. Eventually the truth comes out and you will be the one sitting there smiling. For the record most times the craziest are women. I can't really explain why it just seems to be that way.
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| May 19, 2013, 02:20 |
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GG317
60 / male
Bowl of Granola, Massachusetts, US
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Re: Re: Re: I DON'T KNOW?
QUOTE (Iwant2kssuallovr @ May 18, 2013, 02:17) QUOTE (GG317 @ May 18, 2013, 01:41)Depends...Does the apology get you out of trouble with the authority? An apology can be said that's just as empty as the lie that perpetrated it's outcome. You just have to have a really good sarcastic streak like me when you say it...
As I said, I would only get into more trouble! And no, I will probably always have animosity between myself, the person who caused the conflict, and this other dude, who I didn't even speak with.
When you say, "Out of trouble"... they lied! How can they ever have any credibility, or be trusted? I've heard this shit before. "It won't be written down", then it gets written down. A career can be ruined by a unhappy troll person, fuck head on a power trip. I'm pretty sure I am marked employee.
I am still not sure how this militant shit head, who was at our location for training could be so Frigg 'in confrontational with everyone, and yet she was either "shaking" in fear, or having a tantrum, because of me? Not sure? I think if she dishes it out she should be able to take it. I was actually holding my tongue with her.
Life goes one.. Thanks!
When I first read the thread, I assumed the word, "Authority" meant the literal term in referring to a relationship of that between a police officer and a civilian. Now that more has come out of it, I now see my error and I am truly sorry for my assumption...
If I were going to handle this type of situation, I would make sure the party to the lie were present and someone higher up was also present. There's always someone higher up... An apology in this case makes light of the lie and calls out the liar, without raising eyebrows from a fight if done right. It also holds an added benefit. The higher authority will think you're the bigger person in their troubling lie, designed to make you look bad in the eyes of the company. 
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| May 19, 2013, 18:58 |
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Re: I DON'T KNOW?
Wonderful reply, GG....wonderful.
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| May 20, 2013, 13:40 |
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Iwant2kssuallovr
62 / female
Bendover, Florida, US
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Re: I DON'T KNOW?
A good friend of mine, for a long, long time, said, "If you had her shaking, she shouldn't be in this business in the first place. It's the past, just forget it, move on."
I so love my friends!
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| May 20, 2013, 14:38 |
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Re: I DON'T KNOW?
You're friend is right...I've always been a soft voiced person, but I don't recall ever being intimated by anyone ever.
(Once had a very large guy try to grab my arm to keep me from leaving a room, I just grabbed a chair, climbed up to his eye level, grabbed him by the collar and let him firmly know that he "WILL NEVER LAY A HAND ON ME AGAIN!!!" )
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| May 20, 2013, 15:24 |
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NRG4U
63 / male
Beaver City, Nebraska, US
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Re: Re: I DON'T KNOW?
QUOTE (Chazzy @ May 20, 2013, 15:24)You're friend is right...I've always been a soft voiced person, but I don't recall ever being intimated by anyone ever.
(Once had a very large guy try to grab my arm to keep me from leaving a room, I just grabbed a chair, climbed up to his eye level, grabbed him by the collar and let him firmly know that he "WILL NEVER LAY A HAND ON ME AGAIN!!!" )
....good for u girl. I remember a Guy that was about 75 lbs heavier than me called my mom a name for having car trouble, blocking the lane, I never even let him get out of his car, I punched his nose 5 times as he tried to lean back in the car, then made him apologize to my mom 
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| May 20, 2013, 15:34 |
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wandering5tar
53 / male
London, England, UK
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Re: I DON'T KNOW?
Reminds me of a true situation in The House Of Commons. One of the Members called another a liar. It got quite heated and The Speaker insisted on an apology being made.
This is what he said...
I called the honourable gentleman a liar it is true and I am sorry for it. You can put the punctuation where you like.
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| May 20, 2013, 17:44 |
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Iwant2kssuallovr
62 / female
Bendover, Florida, US
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Re: Re: Re: I DON'T KNOW?
QUOTE (NRG4U @ May 20, 2013, 15:34) QUOTE (Chazzy @ May 20, 2013, 15:24)You're friend is right...I've always been a soft voiced person, but I don't recall ever being intimated by anyone ever.
(Once had a very large guy try to grab my arm to keep me from leaving a room, I just grabbed a chair, climbed up to his eye level, grabbed him by the collar and let him firmly know that he "WILL NEVER LAY A HAND ON ME AGAIN!!!" ) ....good for u girl. I remember a Guy that was about 75 lbs heavier than me called my mom a name for having car trouble, blocking the lane, I never even let him get out of his car, I punched his nose 5 times as he tried to lean back in the car, then made him apologize to my mom
Unfortunately, in life, we can't give some a good smack, even if they deserve it! See post, "Anger Management"!!
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| May 20, 2013, 18:44 |
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sybianwatcher1
49 / male
Kamloops, British Columbia, Canada
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Re: Re: Re: Re: I DON'T KNOW?
QUOTE (Iwant2kssuallovr @ May 20, 2013, 18:44) QUOTE (NRG4U @ May 20, 2013, 15:34) QUOTE (Chazzy @ May 20, 2013, 15:24)You're friend is right...I've always been a soft voiced person, but I don't recall ever being intimated by anyone ever.
(Once had a very large guy try to grab my arm to keep me from leaving a room, I just grabbed a chair, climbed up to his eye level, grabbed him by the collar and let him firmly know that he "WILL NEVER LAY A HAND ON ME AGAIN!!!" ) ....good for u girl. I remember a Guy that was about 75 lbs heavier than me called my mom a name for having car trouble, blocking the lane, I never even let him get out of his car, I punched his nose 5 times as he tried to lean back in the car, then made him apologize to my mom
Unfortunately, in life, we can't give some a good smack, even if they deserve it! See post, "Anger Management"!!
For the record,...I don't smack people....that would be girly...but thank you Kiss, It was wrong what I did, but it sure felt right then , and still does.
Just hold to your morals, and we all know they can't outsmart you, it may take patience on your part,...but the truth never changes, and a good managment staff will recognize it eventually.
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