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sybianwatcher1
49 / male
Kamloops, British Columbia, Canada
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Anger Management
So as some of you know, I opened a Farmers Market outlet near Vancouver that sells naturally raised meat products, with no additives ,chemicals ,hormones, ect., with a few partners .We also hired a manager, that was highly recommended.
It was my responsibility to fund walk in freezer space and to get him to procure advertising , to the tune of many tens of thousands of dollars....which he promptly stole and fled the country.
It took me many months to locate him, but I did, and through some bullshit and tempting we lured him close to the Canada ,U.S. border......he was then mysteriously bound and gagged and placed into a vehicle by several cowboys and turned up here, for the waiting R.C.M.P....I'm not sure because I wasn't there, but was thankful for the good fortune..
A lengthy court case followed, and the financial loss for both my businesses was taking it's toll, along with rising costs, and falling cattle prices.
He was allowed to attend the court case ,wearing an ankle bracelet, and had a 40 minute walk to, and from court, which I logged into my memory.
On the day of the ruling that turned out in my favour, I followed him down one street, and just wanted to tell him how devastating this was to my finances , and if he knew how his stealing this money had affected not only myself, but many people that meant a great deal to me..
He backed up into a corner and laughed at me....mistake number one
He then realized I was younger , much bigger, and much meaner and held out his laptop in front of his face to protect it...mistake number two.
He then tried to kick me in the knee as an act of desperation...mistake number three..
Now I am no longer a violent man, and believe that I treat others as I would like to be treated..but I went a little good ole' boy on him...and I'm not proud of what I did ,but found it warranted, even after he folded up like a cheap lawn chair on the pavement.
Because I allowed him to live, he then charged me with assault , and because he's such a genious in court, HE brought up the earlier court case between us...bringing it into evidence, much to the pleasure of both my lawyers...[they actually did a little dance]...
The judge asked to see me in chambers...and said he understood what I did and why...but had to take into consideration that I followed him, beat him senseless, and due to my considerable combat training, strength ,and size difference, he had to do "something" to me, but didn't want to see me do time in jail...
Soooo....he sentenced me to an Anger Management course in the middle of May....even though I told him that my anger was directed at the appropriate person, at the appropriate time, and he was still walking under his own power.
I feel I have learned a valuable lesson ....next time.. I'll shuv that laptop right up his thieving ass.
Anger Management ?....that's just freaking funny.
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| March 22, 2013, 20:58 |
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Re: Anger Management
I think you should kick his ass again. Just make sure there's no cameras or witnesses. And wear gloves too.
Anger management my ass. What you did was good old fashioned justice!
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| March 22, 2013, 21:10 |
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funlovingpair
59 / couple
Frozen Tundra, Minnesota, US
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Re: Anger Management
OMG, Sy Sy Sy, what on earth should I do with you? But I must say, you did handle your anger with good management.  However, I guess it maybe time that we get together and I teach a few things. Such as, how to inflect great pain with OUT leaving marks. It does wonders in my line of work, pain compliance, got to love it. 
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| March 22, 2013, 21:17 |
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sybianwatcher1
49 / male
Kamloops, British Columbia, Canada
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Re: Anger Management
Well Ma... I did leave a mark or two...is it bad when a guy screams " My face ...My face "...?
...and Free...I knew you'd support my actions...thank you.
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| March 22, 2013, 22:00 |
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Re: Anger Management
I got your back Buddy
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| March 22, 2013, 23:22 |
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funlovingpair
59 / couple
Frozen Tundra, Minnesota, US
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Re: Anger Management
I think Pa is correct you will need to get together with him and learn how to hurt them and not leave a mark. Then they have no proof.
Ma
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| March 22, 2013, 23:27 |
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newbie1011
62 / female
The Shore, New Jersey, US
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Re: Anger Management
I feel he totally deserved what he got and probably more. Unfortunately the bad guys tend to win when it comes to the courts in cases like this. I have been around the courts for a long time and seen so many of these guys push buttons until someone finally snaps and punches them then they go to court and sue.Many of them make a living at it. There is a "church" that goes around doing just that type of thing. They are always in the news. They go do the most vial things to piss people off then they wait for people to react by punching them or something else they can sue over and the court games begin.People are getting wise to them now so more places are warning people if this church shows up, stay calm no mater what they say or do don't get into anything physical with them.If they can't get you going they just leave and move onto the next place. They even go to soldiers funerals and harass the families it's disgusting.
I have to tell you this story...I was a bartender in a go-go bar many years ago. Some guy came in and was just having fun.Out of no where this other guy walks in and walks right over to this guy, unzips his pants and pees on him. The guy who got peed on was watching the dancers so he didn't even see it coming. Of course when he realized what the jerk did he punched him. Needless to say there was a fight. Our bouncer breaks it up and throws out the idiot that peed on the guy. Within a week we all get subpoenaed to go to some lawyers office for depositions.I remember his smart ass lawyer tried to say that we served the guy that punched the idiot to much and that's why his client got punched and hurt (and was suing the bar and the guy that punched him for millions of dollars) I looked this attorney in the face and said "NOPE THE GUY THAT HIT YOUR CLIENT WAS DRINKIN SODA ALL NIGHT. HE WASN'T DRUNK. HE PUNCHED YOUR MORONIC CLIENT BECAUSE HE WALKED IN AND FOR NO REASON DECIDED TO PEE ON HIM. AND FOR THE RECORD I CAN GUARANTEE YOU THAT ANYONE HE DECIDED TO DO THAT TO WOULD ALSO PUNCH HIM INCLUDING ME!BY THE WAY TELL HIM HE IS BARRED FROM NOT JUST THIS BAR BUT EVERY GO-GO BAR IN THE AREA.HE'S A FUCKING IDIOT" Needless to say they never called me to go to court to testify after that.My boss just laughed when he heard what I said to the attorney. My manager and the bar owner told me the case never went anywhere after that. It was nice to know this guy got his ass kicked for what he did and didn't get the win fall he thought he would.I bet he thought twice before he tried that shit again. But then again he would require a brain to think so maybe he did try it again. We will never know.
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| March 23, 2013, 02:13 |
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perveman
111 / male
Tucson, Arizona, US
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Re: Re: Anger Management
QUOTE (funlovingpair @ March 22, 2013, 23:27)I think Pa is correct you will need to get together with him and learn how to hurt them and not leave a mark. Then they have no proof.
Ma
. Well Syb, heard a little more detailes on your deal, Id been happy to take a bus to whoop ass for you. Not scared of jail at all, Im in the mood. To help out a friend is what counts.
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| March 23, 2013, 03:23 |
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sybianwatcher1
49 / male
Kamloops, British Columbia, Canada
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Re: Re: Re: Anger Management
QUOTE (perveman @ March 23, 2013, 03:23) QUOTE (funlovingpair @ March 22, 2013, 23:27)I think Pa is correct you will need to get together with him and learn how to hurt them and not leave a mark. Then they have no proof.
Ma
. Well Syb, heard a little more detailes on your deal, Id been happy to take a bus to whoop ass for you. Not scared of jail at all, Im in the mood. To help out a friend is what counts.
Thanks bud...but he was sipping his steak thru a straw for awhile, plus I think it really pissed him off, I only got counciling....like I can be counciled.
..and my friends don't take the bus...they get picked up and driven to Canada if they want to lend this cowboy a hand.
Your a good man Perve...
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| March 23, 2013, 03:47 |
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perveman
111 / male
Tucson, Arizona, US
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Anger Management
QUOTE (sybianwatcher1 @ March 23, 2013, 03:47) QUOTE (perveman @ March 23, 2013, 03:23) QUOTE (funlovingpair @ March 22, 2013, 23:27)I think Pa is correct you will need to get together with him and learn how to hurt them and not leave a mark. Then they have no proof.
Ma
. Well Syb, heard a little more detailes on your deal, Id been happy to take a bus to whoop ass for you. Not scared of jail at all, Im in the mood. To help out a friend is what counts.
Thanks bud...but he was sipping his steak thru a straw for awhile, plus I think it really pissed him off, I only got counciling....like I can be counciled.
..and my friends don't take the bus...they get picked up and driven to Canada if they want to lend this cowboy a hand.
Your a good man Perve...
. Thx Syb, but no one screws with my friends, or I jump thier shit with the quickness. I only 5 8, 165, who the hell knows how old I am, but I know its not young, lol, but still got enough in me to handle my business. Ya, I too went to anger managent just a couple years ago, guess they didnt get the joke. Ha ha on them. 
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| March 23, 2013, 14:50 |
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Re: Anger Management
QUOTE (sybianwatcher1 @ March 22, 2013, 20:58)Anger Management ?....that's just freaking funny.
Even funnier if Charlie Sheen is your counselor
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| March 23, 2013, 14:52 |
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QUOTE (Chazzy @ March 23, 2013, 14:52) QUOTE (sybianwatcher1 @ March 22, 2013, 20:58)Anger Management ?....that's just freaking funny.
Even funnier if Charlie Sheen is your counselor
I knew somebody was going to say that!!!!!
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| March 23, 2013, 15:21 |
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Mooant
41 / male
New Britain, Connecticut, US
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Re: Anger Management
Would it make you smile if someone found this guy, grabbed him out of his home, ripped off his ankle bracelet, forced a considerable amount of alcohol down his throat and dropped him off at a bar 20 miles or so from his home? And all the cabbies get paid off not to pick this guy up? We'll find a way to do this without cameras around...
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| March 23, 2013, 15:46 |
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Re: Anger Management
Moo dear, if I ever, ever annoy you...please let me know as I don't ever want to full on piss you off.
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| March 23, 2013, 15:53 |
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Mooant
41 / male
New Britain, Connecticut, US
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Re: Anger Management
I highly doubt that could ever occur... I'm not a fighter by nature. I've never even once thrown a punch in my life 
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| March 23, 2013, 16:00 |
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newbie1011
62 / female
The Shore, New Jersey, US
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Re: Anger Management
Isn't it funny that you really see peoples true colors when they are pissed off.Thats when you really see the NY'er in me. I am not afraid of many people in this world but I have to admit that there are a few that I know I never want to be on their bad side. lol It's not the beating most people fear its the twisted way some people can fuck with you that scares people. When I first got married my then husband said "You never have to worry about me divorcing you because your mother scares the shit out of me." The funny part is when I divorced him he has no idea how close to finding out how crazy my mother is. In reality he really should send me a thank you card for calling her off him. lol I also found it odd how many people offered to have "things happen" to him. I have such loyal friends and family.I'm just happy they are on my side.
Free, you think I'm nuts? You should meet some of my friends and family. Okay maybe not.
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| March 23, 2013, 16:11 |
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Re: Anger Management
No, youre right, I dont think I should. Youre just the right amount of "nuts"! 
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| March 23, 2013, 16:59 |
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perveman
111 / male
Tucson, Arizona, US
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Re: Re: Anger Management
QUOTE (freensleazy @ March 23, 2013, 16:59)No, youre right, I dont think I should. Youre just the right amount of "nuts"!
. Hey, hey, I have nuts, or am, keep getting the two mixed up. Mixed nuts, thats the ticket.
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| March 23, 2013, 19:30 |
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sybianwatcher1
49 / male
Kamloops, British Columbia, Canada
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Re: Re: Re: Anger Management
QUOTE (freensleazy @ March 23, 2013, 15:21) QUOTE (Chazzy @ March 23, 2013, 14:52) QUOTE (sybianwatcher1 @ March 22, 2013, 20:58)Anger Management ?....that's just freaking funny.
Even funnier if Charlie Sheen is your counselor
I knew somebody was going to say that!!!!!
I met his brother Emelio once, thru a mutual friend ,and went to a bar in Vancouver with them...he kept saying he was only half as crazy as his brother Charlie, and wished he was there for that night.
I can't say what happened, because my memory kinda gets blurry after 1 A.M. but I'm sure we were as stupid as everybody told us we were...is it bad when everyone wakes up with the same color stripper glitter smeared all over them?
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| March 23, 2013, 22:22 |
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Iwant2kssuallovr
62 / female
Bendover, Florida, US
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Re: Re: Anger Management
QUOTE (Mooant @ March 23, 2013, 16:00)I highly doubt that could ever occur... I'm not a fighter by nature. I've never even once thrown a punch in my life
I've never thrown a punch either, but make sure there is nothing I can pick up like a tennis racket, wine bottle, chair, or crowbar. I was taught to make the first contact count!
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| March 24, 2013, 20:12 |
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sybianwatcher1
49 / male
Kamloops, British Columbia, Canada
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Re: Re: Re: Anger Management
QUOTE (Iwant2kssuallovr @ March 24, 2013, 20:12) QUOTE (Mooant @ March 23, 2013, 16:00)I highly doubt that could ever occur... I'm not a fighter by nature. I've never even once thrown a punch in my life
I've never thrown a punch either, but make sure there is nothing I can pick up like a tennis racket, wine bottle, chair, or crowbar. I was taught to make the first contact count!
...so no critical first warning shot ?...and you've spun my head around plenty of times.
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| March 25, 2013, 00:10 |
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perveman
111 / male
Tucson, Arizona, US
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Anger Management
QUOTE (sybianwatcher1 @ March 25, 2013, 00:10) QUOTE (Iwant2kssuallovr @ March 24, 2013, 20:12) QUOTE (Mooant @ March 23, 2013, 16:00)I highly doubt that could ever occur... I'm not a fighter by nature. I've never even once thrown a punch in my life
I've never thrown a punch either, but make sure there is nothing I can pick up like a tennis racket, wine bottle, chair, or crowbar. I was taught to make the first contact count!
...so no critical first warning shot ?...and you've spun my head around plenty of times.
. So moo, you have never dropped on anyone?. Use to be my hobby back in the day. But if I punched them once, they didnt go down, oh shit, was I in for an ass beating. But Im still pretty.
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| March 25, 2013, 01:19 |
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Re: Anger Management
i'm a lover, not a fighter...have not been in a fight since the 5th grade. got my ass kicked by a 3rd grader...but my excuse is that she was a girl, and i was raised to never hit a girl... 
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| March 25, 2013, 03:11 |
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Iwant2kssuallovr
62 / female
Bendover, Florida, US
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Re: Re: Anger Management
QUOTE (Chazzy @ March 23, 2013, 15:53)Moo dear, if I ever, ever annoy you...please let me know as I don't ever want to full on piss you off.
I find if you pat him on the head he calms down very nicely.
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| March 25, 2013, 22:01 |
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sybianwatcher1
49 / male
Kamloops, British Columbia, Canada
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Re: Anger Management
Take a geuss where I'm going on Thursday.....Have to do some court appointed B.S.....so providing that I don't get thrown in jail ,I shouldn't be gone to long.
I'm pretty sure I'm a little to stubborn to change , and smart enough to know I don't need counciling,.....on the bright side, I get to see some family.
My Dad says he should go with me and set them straight...I said "they probably bolt the chairs to the floor, so they can't be thrown at anyone."
He said .." well then it's pointless".
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| May 13, 2013, 14:07 |
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oldcowboy666
74 / male
bennett, Colorado, US
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Re: Anger Managementy
Hi Sy Oldcowboy here. I had a similar deal a few years back not nearly as costly as yours but an outfitter was trespassing on our ranch for moose. I knew he was doing it but I couldn't catch him. He was charging his clients 5 grand for a moose, fish and game wouldn't back me until I had proof. one day I saw his truck about ten mile back in the woods I knew he was hunting I heard shots. So I pulled the distributer out of his truck and threw it in a beaver pond I rode home called the game warden where to find him. They did the rest. He no longer has an out fitters license and I didn't even get my hands very dirty. Oldcowboy
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| May 13, 2013, 15:43 |
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Re: Anger Management
HA! Now that's a pretty cool story OCB!
And Syb? I wouldnt hesitate to slap the emmer effer around again if I were you
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| May 13, 2013, 16:23 |
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sybianwatcher1
49 / male
Kamloops, British Columbia, Canada
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Re: Anger Management
Cowboy.....you and I have an awful lot in common, outfitters and guides love to push boundries and ignore property lines,...and not alot of hunters can read either.
Free....I'm trying to behave myself, but as some of you know, it doesn't come to natural to me...Thanks my friend.
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| May 13, 2013, 16:45 |
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oldcowboy666
74 / male
bennett, Colorado, US
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Re: Re: Anger Management
QUOTE (sybianwatcher1 @ March 22, 2013, 22:00)Well Ma... I did leave a mark or two...is it bad when a guy screams " My face ...My face "...?
...and Free...I knew you'd support my actions...thank you.
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| May 13, 2013, 20:05 |
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oldcowboy666
74 / male
bennett, Colorado, US
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Re: Anger Management
a bar of soap in a sock leaves no marks. oldcowboy
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| May 13, 2013, 20:08 |
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sybianwatcher1
49 / male
Kamloops, British Columbia, Canada
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QUOTE (oldcowboy666 @ May 13, 2013, 20:08) a bar of soap in a sock leaves no marks. oldcowboy
I'm a hands on kinda guy...besides if I'd picked up an object and used it, with my military background, I'd be looking at a whole different set of charges.
It did come into the trial that I'd been trained to ...lets say...displace alot of tissue , and bone on the human body.
I have left that life behind me, and prefer not to look back, which is why, normally... I am a very peaceful , passive man.
I did have an edged weapon in my pocket ,which I always have, that never even occured to me it was there, and thank goodness he didn't see it...although it's kinda hard to see anything with your eyes swelling shut .
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| May 13, 2013, 21:43 |
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oldcowboy666
74 / male
bennett, Colorado, US
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Re: Re: Anger Management
QUOTE (sybianwatcher1 @ May 13, 2013, 16:45)Cowboy.....you and I have an awful lot in common, outfitters and guides love to push boundries and ignore property lines,...and not alot of hunters can read either.
Free....I'm trying to behave myself, but as some of you know, it doesn't come to natural to me...Thanks my friend.
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| May 13, 2013, 22:07 |
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oldcowboy666
74 / male
bennett, Colorado, US
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Re: Anger Management
behave yourself, prison isn't all it's cracked up to be. Plus the food is really shitty. ocb
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| May 13, 2013, 22:09 |
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sybianwatcher1
49 / male
Kamloops, British Columbia, Canada
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Re: Re: Anger Management
QUOTE (oldcowboy666 @ May 13, 2013, 22:09) behave yourself, prison isn't all it's cracked up to be. Plus the food is really shitty. ocb
Yeah well...you haven't tried Eli's cooking, and his pisswater coffee.
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| May 13, 2013, 22:51 |
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funlovingpair
59 / couple
Frozen Tundra, Minnesota, US
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Re: Re: Anger Management
QUOTE (sybianwatcher1 @ May 13, 2013, 14:07)Take a geuss where I'm going on Thursday.....Have to do some court appointed B.S.....so providing that I don't get thrown in jail ,I shouldn't be gone to long.
I'm pretty sure I'm a little to stubborn to change , and smart enough to know I don't need counciling,.....on the bright side, I get to see some family.
My Dad says he should go with me and set them straight...I said "they probably bolt the chairs to the floor, so they can't be thrown at anyone."
He said .." well then it's pointless".
Good luck and remember it is anger class. LOL just play there game and come back here and you can yell at me.
Ma
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| May 14, 2013, 00:57 |
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Re: Anger Management
Seriously, sometimes I wonder if I'm reading a Sybie post or the first several pages of a Tarantino script.
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| May 16, 2013, 12:22 |
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kamarel
60 / male
Alexandria, Louisiana, US
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Re: Re: Anger Management
QUOTE (Chazzy @ May 16, 2013, 12:22)Seriously, sometimes I wonder if I'm reading a Sybie post or the first several pages of a Tarantino script.
Jules: "Oh, man, I will never forgive your ass for this s**t. This is some f**ked-up repugnant s**t."
Vincent: "Jules, did you ever hear the philosophy that once a man admits that he's wrong that he is immediately forgiven for all wrongdoings? Have you ever heard that?"
Jules: "Get the f**k out my face with that s**t! The motherf**ker that said that s**t never had to pick up itty-bitty pieces of skull on account of your dumb ass."
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| May 16, 2013, 22:26 |
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Iwant2kssuallovr
62 / female
Bendover, Florida, US
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Re: Anger Management
Seems I need to go, as I am angry and aggressive. I had someone shaking and did not even get near them physically. However, seems to me if someone can dish it out, they should be able to take it without whining or repercussion.
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| May 17, 2013, 02:37 |
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QUOTE (Iwant2kssuallovr @ May 17, 2013, 02:37)
Seems I need to go, as I am angry and aggressive. I had someone shaking and did not even get near them physically. However, seems to me if someone can dish it out, they should be able to take it without whining or repercussion.
I wont even say what I was going to say. But it was gonna be something like..........
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| May 17, 2013, 03:23 |
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Iwant2kssuallovr
62 / female
Bendover, Florida, US
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Re: Re: Re: Anger Management
QUOTE (freensleazy @ May 17, 2013, 03:23) QUOTE (Iwant2kssuallovr @ May 17, 2013, 02:37)
Seems I need to go, as I am angry and aggressive. I had someone shaking and did not even get near them physically. However, seems to me if someone can dish it out, they should be able to take it without whining or repercussion.
I wont even say what I was going to say. But it was gonna be something like..........
You have no idea how hard this is for me! Not to be able to do or say what is natural. And, the dishonesty! If any of this stupid shit were true, but it is not, and I can't even defend myself.
I think you know me well enough by now to understand.
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| May 17, 2013, 04:27 |
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newbie1011
62 / female
The Shore, New Jersey, US
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Re: Anger Management
I think the problem with anger management counselling is that they expect people not to get angry over situations that would naturally make someone angry. What the hell is this world coming to?
I have rarely had to get physical with people, although I do think there are times I feel absolutely call for it. If you intentionally hurt my kids or someone I care about, there would be little that could stop me.
I have had MANY people tell me that I am very intimidating and that I frighten them. I have a tendency to be intense when something is important to me. I do try to use the law to get what I want.It is a bit safer that way.I'm not good at holding my feelings back. I love hard but I also have strong emotions other than that.I had both town-board and school boards who have said they literally shake when they see me come in with a stack of papers under my arm. They know it means someone fucked up in a big way or someone did something extremely well but nothing in between.My bosses always used me for the "trouble accounts" or the real hard ass clients. They knew I wouldn't be intimidated by them. My kids are very much the same way. It can be hard when you want to take charge of them but I know they will go into this world and never let someone walk all over them.
I don't normally try to intimidate people. I think when people get to know me they are not as intimidated unless they are on my bad side for some reason.I don't try to be that way. I don't even understand it sometimes, but it seems that's just the way it is. I don't do well with wimpy people either. I like strong people in my life. I never lasted in relationships with men that were to passive either. I like men that stand up for what they want and are not always kissing ass.
Syb, if the story you told is accurate about why the guy got his ass kicked I think the courts could save a lot of wasted time and money by saying "Yup, you ripped him off and he kicked your ass. Your lucky he didn't do more. Maybe you will think twice before trying that again. Now thank him for not killing you , pay him what you owe him or we will turn him loose on you again!. Have a nice life now get the fuck out of my courtroom!"
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| May 17, 2013, 05:48 |
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kamarel
60 / male
Alexandria, Louisiana, US
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Re: Anger Management
grrrrrrr
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| May 17, 2013, 21:38 |
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Iwant2kssuallovr
62 / female
Bendover, Florida, US
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Re: Anger Management
Was your instructor, counselor, therapist, female?
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| May 20, 2013, 00:50 |
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Anger Management
QUOTE (Iwant2kssuallovr @ May 17, 2013, 04:27) QUOTE (freensleazy @ May 17, 2013, 03:23) QUOTE (Iwant2kssuallovr @ May 17, 2013, 02:37)
Seems I need to go, as I am angry and aggressive. I had someone shaking and did not even get near them physically. However, seems to me if someone can dish it out, they should be able to take it without whining or repercussion.
I wont even say what I was going to say. But it was gonna be something like..........
You have no idea how hard this is for me! Not to be able to do or say what is natural. And, the dishonesty! If any of this stupid shit were true, but it is not, and I can't even defend myself.
I think you know me well enough by now to understand.
Again, this probably won't be of much help or make anything better for you but...sometimes what is even better than being right or being understood is quiet grace. You may not ever be directly and openly recognized for it, but admiration and respect will be permanently seeded in the hearts and minds who witness it.
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| May 20, 2013, 13:38 |
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Iwant2kssuallovr
62 / female
Bendover, Florida, US
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Anger Management
Again, this probably won't be of much help or make anything better for you but...sometimes what is even better than being right or being understood is quiet grace. You may not ever be directly and openly recognized for it, but admiration and respect will be permanently seeded in the hearts and minds who witness it.
Thank you! I am trying to remember all my prior lessons, "kill them with kindness" being one of them. And, no, for every to lie in upper mgmt. is sad and pathetic. I could never get any understanding there, as there is something very wrong with these people. I know I am happy with my life, and doubt they can say the same. I guess, I am just very disappointed. Everyone has been so nice. I hate liars!
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| May 20, 2013, 14:47 |
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Iwant2kssuallovr
62 / female
Bendover, Florida, US
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Re: Anger Management
This may be off topic, but it is my post. I found this, and feel it is relevant. It also ties in with another member. Who knew? 
EYE POSITION
I have very expressive eyes, that won't lie as to how I am feeling! A curse, maybe?
"Don't look a wolf in their eye!" ...How many times have you heard this popular myth? Even some experienced biologists believe this before visiting the Sawtooth or Owyhee Pack. The truth is that wolves use eye position as an important form of communication, both within their pack and toward other animals around them (like us).
Gray wolves will look one another in the eye, as humans do, when communicating a greeting, dominance behaviors, and other social gestures. Wolf handlers at the Wolf Center are taught very early, even before meeting the pack, to look into the pack member's eyes when greeting. This allows the wolves opportunity to examine the emotions or mental state of the handler, a process that can be difficult to perceive from humans absent facial postures.
Wolves communicate regularly through subtle and sometimes dramatic facial postures, however, humans have become quite stoic in facial postures through time probably because of our heavy dependency on verbal communication. Still, most humans maintain very subtle posturing through their eyes, a trait captive wolves can learn to decipher. Hence, eye contact with any canine, from your dog to a wild wolf, is a beneficial action that promotes social communication and bonding. There may be times when eye contact is not appropriate with an unknown canine that exhibits potential hostile behaviors, such as growling and snarling.
The process of avoiding direct eye contact, known as averting gaze, will show the aggressive canine that you mean to avoid a fight. In wolves, a submissive wolf regularly averts gaze when a dominant wolf attempts a dominant display toward them. During drastic submissive displays, the submissive wolf will even open their eyes wide when averting gaze, thus showing the whites of their eyes. This behavior is thought to be the most dramatic of submissive eye postures.
Another behavior to avoid with unknown canines, especially wolves, is the fixed (aggressive) stare directly into their eyes. Such a stare is a blatant challenge of that canine's rank and social status. If performed toward a dominant wolf, a reciprocal challenge and fight is likely to ensue. High ranking wolves use this technique to assert their rank over submissive pack members or as a challenge to another trespassing wolf pack.
Most humans unknowingly use eye posture to communicate with one another, or canines, just as wolves do. Think back to the last time you found yourself in close proximity to an aggravated or aggressive dog. You averted your gaze, right? Or the last time you disciplined your dog for an inappropriate behavior. Did you stare at them while reprimanding them? Wolves use this same eye posturing as an important communication tool, and if used properly, humans can more effectively communicate with canines around us every day.
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| May 20, 2013, 14:50 |
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Iwant2kssuallovr
62 / female
Bendover, Florida, US
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Re: Anger Management
Oh, sorry, not my post!!
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| May 20, 2013, 14:57 |
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sybianwatcher1
49 / male
Kamloops, British Columbia, Canada
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Re: Re: Anger Management
QUOTE (Iwant2kssuallovr @ May 20, 2013, 14:57)
Oh, sorry, not my post!!
You saw me looking at you....!!
Whats mine is yours, and you know that.
Hello Kiss.
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| May 20, 2013, 15:45 |
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JenTX
47 / female
East, Texas, US
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Re: Anger Management
Yep I'm high-jacking this one. But it kinda fits.
We looked out the window to trespassers this morning. Some guy and his 7 year old son sitting inside the pasture fence.
It felt like the guy was casing the place. Of course, we went out to see what they needed. He gave Hubby the impression he was looking for a hit.
Wanted us to give his son our son's dog. And then left the gate wide open as he left.
People are seriously screwed up. There is so much wrong with this incident I wouldn't know where to start.
From the way the boy talked they are the ones who took my little dog that disappeared last summer. And they let her die. I searched the entire area for her. Knocked on every single door. Listed her with the police and the pound.
I am so pissed. And I'm left with the feeling of hyper-vigilance and the fear that my son's dog will come up missing sometime soon. And worse the helpless hopeless feeling that there is no way to protect those you love.
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| May 20, 2013, 19:35 |
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sybianwatcher1
49 / male
Kamloops, British Columbia, Canada
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Re: Re: Anger Management
QUOTE (MnJTX @ May 20, 2013, 19:35)Yep I'm high-jacking this one. But it kinda fits.
We looked out the window to trespassers this morning. Some guy and his 7 year old son sitting inside the pasture fence.
It felt like the guy was casing the place. Of course, we went out to see what they needed. He gave Hubby the impression he was looking for a hit.
Wanted us to give his son our son's dog. And then left the gate wide open as he left.
People are seriously screwed up. There is so much wrong with this incident I wouldn't know where to start.
From the way the boy talked they are the ones who took my little dog that disappeared last summer. And they let her die. I searched the entire area for her. Knocked on every single door. Listed her with the police and the pound.
I am so pissed. And I'm left with the feeling of hyper-vigilance and the fear that my son's dog will come up missing sometime soon. And worse the helpless hopeless feeling that there is no way to protect those you love.
I am fully qualified to answer that , but I will refrain, but I will quote a unwritten law here that applies...
Never mess with a persons fence , livestock, or family.
Ranchers and country people ,have a way of making you disappear.
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| May 20, 2013, 22:34 |
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