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Beyond Evil
Anyone who knows me, knows that I am no fan of our current President. However, for the first time, I felt very badly for him as he addressed the Elementary School shooting in Connecticut. His comments were brief, and his demeanor was emotional, wiping away tears as he had difficulty choking out the words. And with good reason. Those poor, innocent, defenseless children and whoever the adults were, going about their daily activities and suddenly, some animal executes them. No one can understand these mass shootings, but why oh why little children?
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December 14, 2012, 20:33 |
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Iwant2kssuallovr
62 / female Bendover, Florida, US
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Re: Beyond Evil
I don't know what flips the switch of an evil mind.
There are no words for the grief and sadness of a senseless and violent crime destroying the lives of so many.
It makes you think how lucky we are to have our loved ones with us.
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December 14, 2012, 21:09 |
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Re: Beyond Evil
Can't even talk about it. Horrific.
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December 14, 2012, 21:40 |
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sybianwatcher1
49 / male Kamloops, British Columbia, Canada
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Re: Beyond Evil
Blessed are the innocent...Blessed are the children....
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December 14, 2012, 22:15 |
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Re: Beyond Evil
Dear God,
Why do you allow such violence in our schools?
signed,
a concerned student.
Dear concerned student,
I am not allowed in schools.
God
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December 15, 2012, 05:33 |
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newbie1011
62 / female The Shore, New Jersey, US
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Re: Beyond Evil
I posted this in the other thread then saw this so re-posting:
I really wish this whole week didn't happen. It's just to sad and makes you realize the real problems in the world aren't politics, gun reform or not, religion in schools or not, gay marriage or not, etc. The real problem is mental illness. Sick fucks always find a way to do their worst.Just this week I have seen it in that mall, in that school and even the fuckin ass that let the scene of the accident knowing he hurt my kids.The people that are a waste of air on this earth.The only saving grace is the wonderful people that you see from these horrors. The off duty cop that witnessed my kids accident, my best friend with all she has done, that amazing teacher who will have a special place in heaven that pulled that 8 year old boy into her class when there were bullets flying past his head.
I don't know how these families will go on with any type of normalcy in their lives. Even those that survived have had this horrific scene burnt into their minds and hearts.Please don't make this a political, religious or any other type of issue it is not. We need to start paying attention to the mental illness issues in our world. Even with that we will only be able to stop some of these senseless unfathomably things, but it would be a great place to start.
Oh and as a side note...To the moron who almost killed me today because you ran a red light. Thanks for at least beeping your horn so I could floor the gas to try to avoid dying! Now maybe you can try stopping at the red light. The break is the one on the LEFT!
Thank you Kam for helping me get through this week .I love you.
I am adding a few other things that happened just recently that prove how evil this world is. Today besides the school shooting referred to here there was a shooting at Rutgers university as well.
The other day a man was shot during the busiest part of the day in midtown Manhattan ,that was a planed hit. That killer is still walking around and it is believed there is another "hit" planned. There was the guy who went around robbing and beating elderly women and even taking the one thing one women begged to keep, her wedding band,from her dying husband,A plain inexpensive gold band.Of course these were all in the past week and I'm sure I left some out. We have lost the fight against the evil in this world when we see the types of things we have seen lately. And you know these things always spark copy cats.
I seriously worry about our kids, and grand-kids and wonder if they even have a future with happiness in it.
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December 15, 2012, 05:44 |
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Re: Beyond Evil
i say that everyone who was not directly affected by it, needs to stop talking about it. it'll be amazing if something like this doesn't happen again within a years time. the nedia blows it way up, everywhere you turn, someone is talking about it. it's gonna lead to a copycat. some suicidal idiot will want to go out famously, and do something worse, yes, i agree that it's tragic, but it's over. at least for the general population anyway. the shooter is dead, he's no longer a threat to society. the real focus needs to be on PRIVATE counseling for the families, friends, and victims.
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December 15, 2012, 06:34 |
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QUOTE (lonelyandhorny @ December 15, 2012, 06:34)i say that everyone who was not directly affected by it, needs to stop talking about it. it'll be amazing if something like this doesn't happen again within a years time. the nedia blows it way up, everywhere you turn, someone is talking about it. it's gonna lead to a copycat. some suicidal idiot will want to go out famously, and do something worse, yes, i agree that it's tragic, but it's over. at least for the general population anyway. the shooter is dead, he's no longer a threat to society. the real focus needs to be on PRIVATE counseling for the families, friends, and victims.
Completely agree.
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December 15, 2012, 11:13 |
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I also agree...but, we're human, and when something this horrific and confusing happens, trauma at this level, people need to talk and need to try to make sense of something so senseless...I do understand that too.
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December 15, 2012, 12:11 |
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perveman
111 / male Tucson, Arizona, US
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Re: Beyond Evil
The whole world has gone insane, makes me look normal. What about what this has/will do to the minds of the surviving children. Forgive me, but things are all fucked up. Then the coward killed himself. Dammit, I would have volunteered to beat his ass.
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December 15, 2012, 12:27 |
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Re: Beyond Evil
i wish the was a tell tales sign of when a person is gonna snap, so that this kind of tragedy could be prevented.
if Perv ever puts clothes on? we had all better RUN!
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December 15, 2012, 13:26 |
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Often there are signs, but the ones closest to them tend to be in denial that their loved one would be capapble of something so evil.
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December 15, 2012, 13:50 |
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IcanCu
62 / male Lake County, Ohio, US
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QUOTE (Chazzy @ December 15, 2012, 13:50)Often there are signs, but the ones closest to them tend to be in denial that their loved one would be capapble of something so evil.
Kids are raised with pharmaceuticals today - no moral guidance from involved parents - Also there is way to much violence dumped onto kids - in their music and video games etc..These kids get numb to evil. It's truly sad.
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December 15, 2012, 15:52 |
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ashkats
65 / couple crystal falls, Michigan, US
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Re: Beyond Evil
well that the whole thing nowadays , they teach the kids to narc ya out ,so ya cant discipline no more, as the kid will say , I'll tell my teacher , and they will call social service on ya,same with the doctor or dentist.then ya wonder why ya cant control you kids.oh just stand them in a corner and give them a time out , ya right . i grew up where teachers and Principal would hide a board in his pants, but i was in the john once and theguy came in and started whacking the kid down from me in the pisser, that alone tearified me for years
then the smoking shit in 8th grade when they took all the doors off the stalls , thinking they would curb the smoking in the johns.it sure raised a stink with the parents
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December 15, 2012, 17:02 |
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sybianwatcher1
49 / male Kamloops, British Columbia, Canada
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QUOTE (lonelyandhorny @ December 15, 2012, 05:33)Dear God,
Why do you allow such violence in our schools?
signed,
a concerned student.
Dear concerned student,
I am not allowed in schools.
God
Took me ahwile to understand what you were saying here...well said..very well said. We saw that here as well, no more Lords prayer before class in elementary school, etc.
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December 15, 2012, 18:43 |
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Re: Beyond Evil
I just want to say, syb, that religion does NOT stop people from doing bad things... Forcing God into public schools wont stop anything.....
The solution to end gun violence is not to take away freedom of religion, if you want God to be apart of your childs education, there are plenty of religious schools happy to help.
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December 15, 2012, 19:39 |
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Iwant2kssuallovr
62 / female Bendover, Florida, US
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QUOTE (subgirl420 @ December 15, 2012, 19:39)I just want to say, syb, that religion does NOT stop people from doing bad things... Forcing God into public schools wont stop anything.....
The solution to end gun violence is not to take away freedom of religion, if you want God to be apart of your childs education, there are plenty of religious schools happy to help.
If you look at our history, I believe God was forced out. And, I am glad you have the solution.
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December 15, 2012, 20:40 |
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Re: Beyond Evil
America was never a "Christian nation" Nothing about America should have anything to do with religion, and schools are funded by the government. Taking away someones right to not be involved in religion is fascist.
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December 15, 2012, 21:16 |
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Iwant2kssuallovr
62 / female Bendover, Florida, US
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QUOTE (subgirl420 @ December 15, 2012, 21:16)America was never a "Christian nation"
Can you cite this?
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December 15, 2012, 21:20 |
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December 15, 2012, 21:38 |
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December 15, 2012, 21:38 |
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Re: Beyond Evil
And freedom of religion INCLUDES freedom from religion. If anything I feel like that right is taken from me.
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December 15, 2012, 21:43 |
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sybianwatcher1
49 / male Kamloops, British Columbia, Canada
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hmmmmm....so why then is it required to swear on a Bible before giving sworn testimony in a court of law, North America's very foundation was started with a somewhat Christian view, and in the process did away with Pantheism...I would also like to add...and I don't want to start an arguement, that here in Canada, if your not some sort of a minority, your beliefs ,are tossed aside , and Non christian followings are put in the forefront, although I do understand your view, and it is your right as a human being to have freedom of choice,...geeee... this is sounding kinda familiar......oh ,..and Happy Holidays,...we cant say Merry Christmas here anymore.
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December 15, 2012, 22:09 |
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Because Christian Priviledge has become the social norm in America.
"Although not officially part of the official oath, George Washington is credited with adding this line after he finished the oath during his first inauguration. Most Presidents have also uttered this phrase at the end of their oaths. Theodore Roosevelt, however, decided to end his oath with the phrase, "And thus I swear." "
"The tradition of the President taking his oath of office with his hand on a Bible was first begun by George Washington during his first inauguration. Some Presidents have opened the Bible to a random page (like George Washington in 1789 and Abraham Lincoln in 1861) while most others have opened the Bible to a specific page because of a meaningful verse. Of course, there is always the option to keep the Bible closed like Harry Truman did in 1945 and John F. Kennedy in 1961. Some Presidents even had two Bibles (with either both opened to the same verse or two different verses), while only one President refrained from using a Bible at all (Theodore Roosevelt in 1901). "
Its not requirement, just a long term tradition that has nothing to do with any principles.
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I misread the question and answered it with the reason of president.. here is court:
"Physically placing one?s hand on a Bible and swearing an oath in court
are not required. The religious convictions of some people prevent
them from doing so. A person will however be required to publicly
affirm his solemn agreement to tell the truth if he objects to
swearing an oath. Such an affirmation does not involve or require the
use of a Bible."
I know research is hard and looking outside of your comfort zone isnt always fun. But open your eyes, its 2012.
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December 15, 2012, 22:12 |
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sybianwatcher1
49 / male Kamloops, British Columbia, Canada
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Re: Beyond Evil
There is a race of people in Russia, who I come from, and they were the first to seperate church and state, they were burned at the stake for it, and cut apart alive, they then emmigrated here, and taught non-violence, or to love their fellow man....this was the basis of my post earlier. Non-violence in our schools....no five year old should have to forgo what happened...how we accomplish that is irrelivent.I have also been forced to live outside of my comfort zone, and have had to do unspeakable things, that most people would not understand, and have had them done to me, in service to protect our freedoms here....
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December 15, 2012, 22:22 |
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I am just disturbed when I hear that people actually think America is a Christian Nation. I don't say things unless I have the information and knowledge to back it up, and that is all.
And this discussion is extremely important. How many shootings in America have to happen before we think of a solution?
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December 15, 2012, 22:25 |
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sybianwatcher1
49 / male Kamloops, British Columbia, Canada
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QUOTE (subgirl420 @ December 15, 2012, 22:25)I am just disturbed when I hear that people actually think America is a Christian Nation. I don't say things unless I have the information and knowledge to back it up, and that is all.
both Canada and America are melting pots of different nations brought together in a common goal...freedom of speech, the freedom to pursue anything you want, and saftey...we are safe to say and do almost anything we want, as long as you don't harm another person....and there is the line...or for lack of a better term.....Though shalt not kill......I do respect your opinion, although I don't really agree,...but, isn't that why we are here?
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December 15, 2012, 22:31 |
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You can't believe that we are all here to pursue anything we want and also believe that we are based on a religion. That's a contradiction.
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December 15, 2012, 22:34 |
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sybianwatcher1
49 / male Kamloops, British Columbia, Canada
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Re: Beyond Evil
all im sure of right now is that you type way faster than I do
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December 15, 2012, 22:36 |
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wandering5tar
53 / male London, England, UK
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An absolutely tragedy. Everyone I have spoken to here in the UK is thinking of the families that have been so horrible hurt by this.
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December 15, 2012, 23:02 |
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perveman
111 / male Tucson, Arizona, US
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Re: Beyond Evil
Wont catch me getting into this dabate. Been sround too long, and know the truth.
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December 15, 2012, 23:31 |
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newbie1011
62 / female The Shore, New Jersey, US
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Re: Beyond Evil
I am giving you a standing ovation!!!! Thank you for posting that information. I have been having this same debate on FB. I have no issue with those who choose to believe or not I don't want to force someone, including my children to believe how I do and I don't want others to force their beliefs on me. With that I say Happy holiday's or not but enjoy your time with your families.Now I am going to hug my children that I can reach.
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December 16, 2012, 01:01 |
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kamarel
60 / male Alexandria, Louisiana, US
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QUOTE (subgirl420 @ December 15, 2012, 22:34)You can't believe that we are all here to pursue anything we want and also believe that we are based on a religion. That's a contradiction.
Believing contradictions is the sign of a versatile mind.
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December 16, 2012, 01:16 |
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sybianwatcher1
49 / male Kamloops, British Columbia, Canada
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Re: Beyond Evil
Thank you Kam..
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December 16, 2012, 01:30 |
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wildflower59
65 / female McGaheysville, Virginia, US
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Re: Beyond Evil
This is not about religion or any god. This is about a violent act committed but a person with an obvious psychological issue. There have been a number of discussions on facebook relating to the escalating violence in this country. The USA is now one of very few country's that are still allowing GMO foods, chlorine, and fluoride in the water along with a multitude of medicines and chemical run off, like Round-up. Our farmland is contaminated with the same chemicals that are in our water. Some of the side effects of these chemicals include: cancer, DNA mutation, diabetes, hypothyroidism (could that be why we're all over weight?) neurological disorders, tumors and many more. They are still unaware of the long term side-effects, these are just the preliminary results.
So, what is the chance that the chemicals have anything to do with the escalating violence, escalating neurological disorders, escalating medical problems, escalating cancers
BTW, fluoride was originally tested in German Concentration Camps. It was used to make the detainees docile. Fluoride is part of the chemical make up of Prozac. Not everyone responds to these chemicals in a positive way. Some people can become violent. I remember news broadcasts about Prozac side-effects.
We mourn the loss of life. But instead of simply placing blame, we need to find out the cause of the psychological disorder that plagued this young man and insure steps to prevent this incident from occurring again, elsewhere. First step, a security guard with a gun in every school.
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December 16, 2012, 02:01 |
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QUOTE (kamarel @ December 16, 2012, 01:16) QUOTE (subgirl420 @ December 15, 2012, 22:34)You can't believe that we are all here to pursue anything we want and also believe that we are based on a religion. That's a contradiction.
Believing contradictions is the sign of a versatile mind.
Well that's where we disagree. I think people accept those contradictions because of cosmic loneliness. The need to know that you serve a greater purpose than just being alive.
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December 16, 2012, 02:33 |
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QUOTE (wildflower59 @ December 16, 2012, 02:01)This is not about religion or any god. This is about a violent act committed but a person with an obvious psychological issue. There have been a number of discussions on facebook relating to the escalating violence in this country. The USA is now one of very few country's that are still allowing GMO foods, chlorine, and fluoride in the water along with a multitude of medicines and chemical run off, like Round-up. Our farmland is contaminated with the same chemicals that are in our water. Some of the side effects of these chemicals include: cancer, DNA mutation, diabetes, hypothyroidism (could that be why we're all over weight?) neurological disorders, tumors and many more. They are still unaware of the long term side-effects, these are just the preliminary results.
So, what is the chance that the chemicals have anything to do with the escalating violence, escalating neurological disorders, escalating medical problems, escalating cancers
BTW, fluoride was originally tested in German Concentration Camps. It was used to make the detainees docile. Fluoride is part of the chemical make up of Prozac. Not everyone responds to these chemicals in a positive way. Some people can become violent. I remember news broadcasts about Prozac side-effects.
We mourn the loss of life. But instead of simply placing blame, we need to find out the cause of the psychological disorder that plagued this young man and insure steps to prevent this incident from occurring again, elsewhere. First step, a security guard with a gun in every school.
Yes you're right. It just started because of the idea that having god in public schools would solve anything.
I'm now very knowledgeable about chemicals in the water sort of thing. I think it would certainly be interesting to learn more about.
I also want to say that the thing people are asking for, mental health care, I'm just going to HAVE to say it... Obamacare!
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December 16, 2012, 02:36 |
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kamarel
60 / male Alexandria, Louisiana, US
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QUOTE (subgirl420 @ December 16, 2012, 02:33) QUOTE (kamarel @ December 16, 2012, 01:16) QUOTE (subgirl420 @ December 15, 2012, 22:34)You can't believe that we are all here to pursue anything we want and also believe that we are based on a religion. That's a contradiction.
Believing contradictions is the sign of a versatile mind.
Well that's where we disagree. I think people accept those contradictions because of cosmic loneliness. The need to know that you serve a greater purpose than just being alive.
We don't disagree as much as you think. But I forgive you because you don't me well enough to know better.
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December 16, 2012, 03:07 |
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newbie1011
62 / female The Shore, New Jersey, US
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Re: Beyond Evil
Sub you are smart but a bit naive and as much as you hate to hear this (as I did and my kids and anyone else at your age), you will learn with age and experience that Kam is right
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December 16, 2012, 03:16 |
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sybianwatcher1
49 / male Kamloops, British Columbia, Canada
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It has nothing to do with cosmic loneliness, whatever that is, it is simply having a point of view , and removing yourself from that thought , and considering a different aspect.If you'd like to label it a contradiction...I'm fine with that. As for serving a greater purpose than just being alive, i believe most people are put here for a purpose.
Listen ...Sub, we've talked about this at length in the lobby, lets agree to disagree...lets honour the lives of innocent children ,senselessly taken for a reason we'll probably never be able to understand, and we will never be able to find justification for what happened. There probably will never be any clear answers.
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December 16, 2012, 03:39 |
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Well I wasnt involved in that lobby conversation, in which I am sure you all just dismissed my ideals because of my age, had a good laugh and moved on.
Which is fine, you are entitled to your opinion regardless of how wrong I think it is, just as I am entitled to my own.
I stick to my convictions and I AM the change I want to see in the world. I don't just sit around and bitch, because frankly things like this are important to discuss and try and change. "Praying for the families" doesnt do anything to prevent the next deaths.
What happened was tragic, but rolling over and accepting that nothing can be done is a mistake that Americans have done for too long.
Facts don't make me naive, and neither does sharing them.
Believing contradictions is different than seeing all sides of the story, in my opinion.
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December 16, 2012, 04:25 |
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wildflower59
65 / female McGaheysville, Virginia, US
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Re: Beyond Evil
Well said.
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December 16, 2012, 04:44 |
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Re: Beyond Evil
Morgan Freeman's statement about these random shootings....
"You want to know why. This may sound cynical, but here's why.
It's because of the way the media reports it. Flip on the news and watch how we treat the Batman theater shooter and the Oregon mall shooter like celebrities. Dylan Klebold and Eric Harris are household names, but do you kn
ow the name of a single victim of Columbine? Disturbed people who would otherwise just off themselves in their basements see the news and want to top it by doing something worse, and going out in a memorable way. Why a grade school? Why children? Because he'll be remembered as a horrible monster, instead of a sad nobody.
CNN's article says that if the body count "holds up", this will rank as the second deadliest shooting behind Virginia Tech, as if statistics somehow make one shooting worse than another. Then they post a video interview of third-graders for all the details of what they saw and heard while the shootings were happening. Fox News has plastered the killer's face on all their reports for hours. Any articles or news stories yet that focus on the victims and ignore the killer's identity? None that I've seen yet. Because they don't sell. So congratulations, sensationalist media, you've just lit the fire for someone to top this and knock off a day care center or a maternity ward next.
You can help by forgetting you ever read this man's name, and remembering the name of at least one victim. You can help by donating to mental health research instead of pointing to gun control as the problem."
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December 16, 2012, 05:10 |
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Morgan Freeman says a lot of great things, I disagree with this statement, though. Forgetting isnt the answer, letting go isnt the answer. Gun control and mental health have to go hand in hand in this problem facing America.
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December 16, 2012, 05:21 |
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perveman
111 / male Tucson, Arizona, US
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Re: Beyond Evil
Kitchen knives and the ole perves hands and feet need to be regisrated too. Oh crap, ready are. Hate when when happens
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December 16, 2012, 06:52 |
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newbie1011
62 / female The Shore, New Jersey, US
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Re: Beyond Evil
I do see our young people as our future. I hope my kids are smarter than the generation they follow. Unfortunately the human race has short memories and we don't learn from our mistakes as our history proves over and over.
I know I can only speak for myself here and want you to know Subgirl I never dismiss anyone just due to age. I believe I learn from people of all ages at anytime. I also believe we all learn everyday if you are open to it.
This horrific tragedy happened for many reasons and some which we will never know.Yes it needs to be talked about, debated, screamed about and even dreamt about.I believe the point of the media blowing this up and almost celebrating these killers is valid but it is also a fine line at times. I can speak as the media being my family and work background.You have to keep it interesting and new and even sensational to keep people watching, listening, hearing, reading, and hopefully talking about what happened. The reasons are where the lines get blurred. Is it to get more viewers and in the end more awards and more advertisers? Is it to keep it in the media for the purpose of getting the public to debate this? Political reasons? I can go on and on but you get the picture. EVERYONE has an agenda! In the end the media is a business and they do things to make money and keeping things sensational makes them money. A new type of reporting and in some cases even networks get born out of these types of things.There was a horrible crash many years ago I believe before you were born, on Long Island.Many of the passengers that died or got hurt were orphan children being flown in. It was very sad. Every news crew was there from every station.My brother was on one of the news crews first on the scene. He won an award from that that never gets mentioned on his resume yet he cherishes it more than any of his multitudes of awards. He and his crew were the ONLY ones that 1)Didn't stick a camera in any bloody face and ask "How are you feeling right now" as so many others did. 2)They didn't attack the families of the people killed as they were collapsing to the floor in tears as they were told about their families.and most of all 3) They put their cameras and note pads down to help pull people out.
After that event the media was blasted for the disgusting way they covered the crash. They all met and tried to discuss new standards of more respect etc. They discussed the "Going out in a blaze of glory" thing that many of these mass murderers have. There was one a few years ago that actually left a note or a blog that said he wanted his "name and face to be everywhere" . The media will never balance this completely as long as the public demands this stuff and they do.
Most people wish they could do something to help or change something especially when bad thins happen.Wanting to do something and being able to are very different things. People aren't "Bitching" they are venting, mostly out of frustration for not being able to stop these horrific events.Try to be open minded enough to know that even if you don't believe in something it doesn't necessarily mean it does not exist. It just means you just have no proof it does. And understand that if some do believe and it helps them get through something like this then that can be a great thing.It doesn't mean everyone sits back and says "It's god will therefor I will do nothing but pray." You don't think the majority of people do that.
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December 16, 2012, 08:00 |
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kamarel
60 / male Alexandria, Louisiana, US
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Re: Beyond Evil
Good gawd. Enough. When you get right down to it, there will always be a better more efficient way to kill. And a lunatic willing to put that better way into practice. No amount of gun control or psychiatric care is going to stop it. Although horrific, 26 kids and teachers is statistically insignificant. The same can be said for the 3000+ people who died in 9/11, when compared to metropolitan NYC. And the couple 100k who died in Hiroshima and Nagaski, when compared to the population of Japan or if expanded to the world population. The numbers are to great. If they stop 1000 nut jobs who want to die and take a crowd with them, there is still the one that will be successful.
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December 16, 2012, 11:46 |
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kamarel
60 / male Alexandria, Louisiana, US
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QUOTE (kamarel @ December 16, 2012, 11:46)Good gawd. Enough. When you get right down to it, there will always be a better more efficient way to kill. And a lunatic willing to put that better way into practice. No amount of gun control or psychiatric care is going to stop it. Although horrific, 26 kids and teachers is statistically insignificant. The same can be said for the 3000+ people who died in 9/11, when compared to metropolitan NYC. And the couple 100k who died in Hiroshima and Nagaski, when compared to the population of Japan or if expanded to the world population. The numbers are to great. If they stop 1000 nut jobs who want to die and take a crowd with them, there is still the one that will be successful.
Now whether you pray to Hades for the souls of the dead or to Hera to ease the pain of the survivors, or you smoke dope to numb your sensitivities, or you lock the door and pull a blanket over your head and are happy it wasn't you, it doesn't matter. The sun will rise tomorrow and life will go on for most of those who are still here.
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December 16, 2012, 13:32 |
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QUOTE (kamarel @ December 16, 2012, 01:16) QUOTE (subgirl420 @ December 15, 2012, 22:34)You can't believe that we are all here to pursue anything we want and also believe that we are based on a religion. That's a contradiction.
Believing contradictions is the sign of a versatile mind.
Love this!
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Re: Re: Beyond Evil
QUOTE (Chazzy @ December 15, 2012, 12:11)... we're human, and when something this horrific and confusing happens, trauma at this level, people need to talk and need to try to make sense of something so senseless...I do understand that too.
Please keep religion out of this or the thread will be locked or deleted and any barn burners who cross the line and bring religion into this topic will be the ones who get infuriated when we have no choice but to lock or delete.
I do understand the need to talk about it, but no religion.
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December 16, 2012, 15:23 |
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