Next thing ya know, they'll be limiting the size of breast implants. Disgusting.

I need to implant my penile someplace too

All bullshit aside, we Americans are more regulated than we think. We ARE, as the frog in cool water, that slowly heats to a boil, and not even know whats happening. We aint seen nuttin yet. No more explanation.

  QUOTE (perveman @ September 14, 2012, 13:47)


Good analogy. I think if you took a poll, you'd find that the majority of people feel that way. Unfortunately, it's only the minority that speak up. This is why I should be King of the World!

You can still do free refills, still buy large sizes except in the places that are controlled by the health department and you can still buy milk shakes, fruit juice, milk, chocolate milk etc. which are all high in calories and cost more to the consumer.You can also buy any "diet" drink at any size you want. Do you have any idea how bad those diet drinks are for you?

I agree. It should apply to all outlets selling for direct public consumption (but not bottles etc. to be taken home). There should be additional regulation on food and drink contents too - we've had a lot of this in Europe for years, which is why we have to import Fruit Loops etc.

L and H also made a good point. When did our government decide that all parents are to irresponsible and/or stupid to make food and drink choices for our families.

You don't make laws because of the way all people behave, but everyone has to conform to them. For example, when did our government decide that all people are too irresponsible and/or stupid to walk or take a taxi after they have been drinking alcohol? They didn't; but when they saw an increase in the number of road deaths and injuries that were alcohol related they decided they had to legislate for the good of everyone. And it's hard to argue that the enormous growth (pun intended) of obesity isn't an equivalent public health hazard.

But you also can't make things to expensive for the average family or even worse poor families then bitch because they don't buy it. Poor families don't buy koolaid and soda because they would rather their children drink that. They buy it because at almost $5 a gallon of milk that's what they can afford. I go through 1 to 2 gallons of milk a day in my house. When all my kids lived at home it was 3 gallons plus orange juice at almost $10 a gallon, and fruit. Add that up on a daily basis and tell me how someone on foodstamps is going to be able to do it. Or not even on foodstamps. Lets say someone who takes home $30,000 a year and has a mortgage and 2 kids.The cheapest rent around my area is almost $1,300 a month. Start doing the math and see why people make the choices they do. FYI the prices I gave are average for a brand like Tropicana OJ. If you want your family to eat and drink organic and fresh not frozen items with no pesticides or free range eggs or any of the other things that are recommended for our health and the environments health you might as well pray you hit the lottery because it can't happen unless you do.

I agree again. This is also driven by the profit motives of the food producers. Water is free, so bring up your kids to drink that normally and have a soda occasionally. UK tap water was recently certified as much better for you than bottled water and tasted much better too! Similarly fresh seasonal produce is much cheaper than ready made meals so people should learn to peel potatoes again instead of relying on processed food. I've noticed that around here, all the people who complain they can't afford food never have many things from the fresh fruit and veg section in their shopping trolley!

By the way even if you are out at a restaurant, many don't even offer you water from a tap. They sell you bottled water. If you go to a concert or park or even a convenience store these days you pay about $2 for a 12 oz bottle of water.They don't even have water fountains anymore in many places. Even if they did I wouldn't drink out of most water fountains these days.Our school has water that is ORANGE. Teams bring water from home or bottled water so they don't use the schools water at athletic events.But to bring a water bottle to school you need a doctors note saying its necessary and they want it to be sealed so they know it's water and a kid didn't fill it with something else.As you can see this is getting more expensive.So how will this law help the average person or the low income families.Or even the wealthy families. Do you really think this will do anything? If so, how?

I never have trouble getting tap water in a restaurant. Like I said before, in the UK tap water is better than bottled and I'm certainly not going to pay for water! Surely, if the water at the school is awful, that's what should be changed.

Changing public perception or behaviour is a slow process. If my parent's generation had been offered bucket loads of cola they'd have laughed and gone elsewhere; now it's standard and expected and it will take time, one step at a time to change again.

However, 99% of the time I order water, and I wonder if they think I'm cheap? Truthfully, I really don't like paying $2.00 for soda, but that's not exactly why I order water. I order water because it's good for me, my body needs it!! And, while having a meal, I will drink 2-3 glasses easily. I just suck it down.

Ditto. I order water too. But bottled, not tap water. It's what I prefer.

  QUOTE (freensleazy @ September 15, 2012, 16:55)


Boxed wine and bottled water, what to do with you?

well..if you lived the life I do , you could consume as many calories as you like, and supersized soft drinks would be about 100 kilometeres away, making them a luxury, that and ice cream.I think New york should put more effort into running it's massive infrastructure, and let individuals make their own choices for now.......here's a thought, why is a soft drink cheaper than water ? Perhaps they should focus on that.

Good to hear about the gun laws there. Does that mean I can shoot my way in? You can just see that picture huh? A naked guy storming your boarder, with an AK47. Thats just funny right there now. I dont care who ya are. (LTCG)

The reason water costs more than soda is because we are stupid enough to pay for it.

Two of my clients were bottled water companies. I was laughing to myself after the first time I went to the "bottling plant" of one of them. I swear, it was a barn in the back of his property in NJ with a faucet that they filled the bottles from. Their are different types of bottled water. There is "spring water" and "bottled water" and "mineral water" and "distilled water".What type of water depends on what the law requires for them to label it as such. They have NO health benefits to them above the water from your tap.In fact some have been found to be less beneficial because the minerals are removed in the possessing of the water to make it legal to bottle and sell. The studies show most people prefer the taste of tap water to bottled water as well. I remember the first time I saw bottled water. I actually said "Who would pay for water when you can get it for free almost anywhere?"

The healthier they can "convince" us it is for us the more they can charge for it. The same water that is used to make Coke or Pepsi they bottle as water for a much higher price than they do to turn it into Coke or Pepsi.

It reminds me of a story that John Regas(Owner of Adelphia Cable and one of the first people to be in the cable industry in the world.) told us. He said he had started with two or three cable channels when he started cable. People all over told him he was crazy. Most would say things like "Who would pay for television" Or "How many channels do we need? The ones we have are more than enough." At the time it was ABC, CBS and NBC. I don't even think PBS was around yet.He laughed about it as he told the story. .............................and the biodegradable "green" plastic they come in breaks down in sunlight, and you are consuming plastics that have never been tested nor approved for human consumption, these toxins are linked to the worldwide drop in sperm count in men, and the high birth rate of females in the third world......but hey !! they say the tap water is poison.

  QUOTE (newbie1011 @ September 17, 2012, 03:13)

Ya, like years ago, we got our water chlorinated. Like we took a vote? I dont think so. Just an early example of our choices, but the government knowing whats best for us. I was under the mistaken belief we pretty well had an idea what may be best for us. Next, the govrnment will require signs on gas pumps, "Warning: Not to be taken internally." Hell, damn glad they warned me, I was just about to drink a glass of premium.

well..if you lived the life I do , you could consume as many calories as you like, and supersized soft drinks would be about 100 kilometeres away, making them a luxury, that and ice cream.I think New york should put more effort into running it's massive infrastructure, and let individuals make their own choices for now.......here's a thought, why is a soft drink cheaper than water ? Perhaps they should focus on that.

  QUOTE (sybianwatcher1 @ September 16, 2012, 15:39)
Yea the pop cheaper then water really bugs me...