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perveman
111 / male
Tucson, Arizona, US
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Intellagence/education, vs. wisdom/experience
I admit, I posted a dumb and confusing topic here yesterday. Which got me to thinking, (yes, even the ole perve can think). Granted, gaining, maintaining, and using knowledge, has it's place, as in formal education. And I know it's hard to believe, even I, graduated college, (dammit, stop laughing). Question is, would you prefer to be brain smart, or to be wise and experinced? Due to the "unsual, wild, very eventful and countless experiences in my life", I prefer, and it serves me well, the experience of the "School of hard knocks", over book learning. The way I see it, common sense (when I use it) is best for me. I do know others feel the other way, so what would be your spin on this? And I really am intested to hear, as I may be able to learn something.
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| September 21, 2011, 14:28 |
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Re: Intellagence/education, vs. wisdom/experience
I'll choose street smarts over a degree any day.
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| September 21, 2011, 14:37 |
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perveman
111 / male
Tucson, Arizona, US
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Re: Re: Intellagence/education, vs. wisdom/experience
QUOTE (freensleazy @ September 21, 2011, 14:37)I'll choose street smarts over a degree any day.
Bravo free! Is'nt it a lot like playing the guitar? I was shown a few chords at 14, took it from there, and fortunatly, was able to figure it out myself mimicking what I heard, and with a natural ear for music, (a talent on loan from God), played and sang lead in 3 rock bands (many moons ago). To this day, can't read a lick of music. As in life, can study something, but does you no good, unless you can do it. And like boxing, (my fave), you can tell who is trained, vs who has natural talent.
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| September 21, 2011, 15:04 |
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Re: Intellagence/education, vs. wisdom/experience
I have 98.6 degrees. Thats all I need.
Seriously though, I think going to college is way over rated. Not that there's anything wrong with it, but most 17 or 18 year olds cant decide if they want a Whopper or a Big Mac, much less to make an education decision to train themselves for a career for the rest of their lives. A degree in anything other than a specified career, Business, Law, Medicine, Education etc. is a waste of time. Spending the money to take non-descript courses for the sake of achieving a diploma that will never benefit you in the real world is an exercise in futility. Society puts far too much emphasis on college. There are those that will disagree with me, and that's cool, but that's my opinion
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| September 21, 2011, 15:26 |
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Iwant2kssuallovr
62 / female
Bendover, Florida, US
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Re: Intellagence/education, vs. wisdom/experience
I agree with you Free. I never wanted to go to college. Give me a Technical school, and hands on, is the best way.
I may not make the most money, but I'm honest. While my friends went to college, I was out having fun. Maybe I did it wrong? I am in classes right now, and confused as shit over the History of Psychologist, Behaviorism, theories of Tolman, Hull, Skinner, and Bandura.
But, I like to have fun, and I know how to behave and treat people kindly.
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| September 21, 2011, 15:59 |
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perveman
111 / male
Tucson, Arizona, US
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Re: Re: Intellagence/education, vs. wisdom/experience
QUOTE (Iwant2kssuallovr @ September 21, 2011, 15:59)I agree with you Free. I never wanted to go to college. Give me a Technical school, and hands on, is the best way.
I may not make the most money, but I'm honest. While my friends went to college, I was out having fun. Maybe I did it wrong? I am in classes right now, and confused as shit over the History of Psychologist, Behaviorism, theories of Tolman, Hull, Skinner, and Bandura.
But, I like to have fun, and I know how to behave and treat people kindly.
Only thing my dumb-ass got out of that was "treating others kindly", the other was, WUT? Yuk, yuk, yuk.
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| September 21, 2011, 16:03 |
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NRG4U
63 / male
Beaver City, Nebraska, US
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Re: Intellagence/education, vs. wisdom/experience
I think a lil of both is needed now days, i have a niece thats smart as hell, straight A student, but has all the common sense of a brick. Without formal education, your jobs are limited to serving drinks in a bar or digging ditches. But without some street smarts,you look like a idiot to most
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| September 21, 2011, 16:07 |
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Re: Re: Re: Intellagence/education, vs. wisdom/experience
QUOTE (perveman @ September 21, 2011, 15:04) QUOTE (freensleazy @ September 21, 2011, 14:37)I'll choose street smarts over a degree any day. Bravo free! Is'nt it a lot like playing the guitar? I was shown a few chords at 14, took it from there, and fortunatly, was able to figure it out myself mimicking what I heard, and with a natural ear for music, (a talent on loan from God), played and sang lead in 3 rock bands (many moons ago). To this day, can't read a lick of music. As in life, can study something, but does you no good, unless you can do it. And like boxing, (my fave), you can tell who is trained, vs who has natural talent.
I'm self taught too, but this is one area I wish I would have had some training when I was younger. That and learning piano.
And if it makes you feel any better, Paul McCartney cant read music either.
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| September 21, 2011, 16:08 |
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NRG4U
63 / male
Beaver City, Nebraska, US
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Intellagence/education, vs. wisdom/experience
QUOTE (freensleazy @ September 21, 2011, 16:08) QUOTE (perveman @ September 21, 2011, 15:04) QUOTE (freensleazy @ September 21, 2011, 14:37)I'll choose street smarts over a degree any day. Bravo free! Is'nt it a lot like playing the guitar? I was shown a few chords at 14, took it from there, and fortunatly, was able to figure it out myself mimicking what I heard, and with a natural ear for music, (a talent on loan from God), played and sang lead in 3 rock bands (many moons ago). To this day, can't read a lick of music. As in life, can study something, but does you no good, unless you can do it. And like boxing, (my fave), you can tell who is trained, vs who has natural talent.
I'm self taught too, but this is one area I wish I would have had some training when I was younger. That and learning piano.
And if it makes you feel any better, Paul McCartney cant read music either.
My mom taught me to play the piano, but i'm self taught on the guitar, using illustrated books, now they have videos that make it very easy to learn
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| September 21, 2011, 16:12 |
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perveman
111 / male
Tucson, Arizona, US
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Intellagence/education, vs. wisdom/experience
QUOTE (NRG4U @ September 21, 2011, 16:12) QUOTE (freensleazy @ September 21, 2011, 16:08) QUOTE (perveman @ September 21, 2011, 15:04) QUOTE (freensleazy @ September 21, 2011, 14:37)I'll choose street smarts over a degree any day. Bravo free! Is'nt it a lot like playing the guitar? I was shown a few chords at 14, took it from there, and fortunatly, was able to figure it out myself mimicking what I heard, and with a natural ear for music, (a talent on loan from God), played and sang lead in 3 rock bands (many moons ago). To this day, can't read a lick of music. As in life, can study something, but does you no good, unless you can do it. And like boxing, (my fave), you can tell who is trained, vs who has natural talent.
I'm self taught too, but this is one area I wish I would have had some training when I was younger. That and learning piano.
And if it makes you feel any better, Paul McCartney cant read music either.
My mom taught me to play the piano, but i'm self taught oThx for that free, but I'll never, ever, be a Paul deal.
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| September 21, 2011, 16:26 |
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newbie1011
62 / female
The Shore, New Jersey, US
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Re: Intellagence/education, vs. wisdom/experience
I have two kids in collage and one in her junior year of high school looking at colleges. I do feel these days college is like high school used to be. You need that piece of paper to make a living. Colleges are changing too. They are incorporating more hands on teaching and internships as well as mixing in other things to have the students try things before they decide if that's what they want to do for the rest of their lives.
HOWEVER...I also think that many times colleges are a huge waste of money and are strictly a business. My son transferred from Rutgers to a local college and I cant even tell you how many credits he lost. I feel if you earned those credits they should stay with you no matter where you go. Unfortunately colleges are a business and they don't see it that way.
I am also one of the very few in the field I was in that did not have a college degree. Yet I was one of the top in my field. My life experience gave me something that most people with degrees didn't have. I had more knowledge of TV production and sales than anyone that had a degree that came in straight from college. I had years of dealing with people on all kids of situations and I could sell a cup of water to a drowning man.My boss was always amazed how easy it was for me to handle the most problematic accounts. I always said "Have you ever had to deal with a group of drunks at closing time at a go-go bar? That is a problem, these guys are easy." He laughed but he also knew it was somewhat true.
I have worked since I was twelve years old. I was always good with people and felt comfortable in many different circumstances. BUT...I do think that formal education has things to bring to the table as well. That is why I always went to seminars and conferences.I believe you need both street smarts and formal education to really make the most of of yourself in most situations.That piece of paper will also get you a bigger paycheck (IN MOST JOBS, BUT NOT MINE),and help you climb that corporate ladder faster than just street smarts.
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| September 21, 2011, 16:57 |
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NRG4U
63 / male
Beaver City, Nebraska, US
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Re: Intellagence/education, vs. wisdom/experience
well for me, my military career opened the door for me, & as a pilot, i'm as high up the ladder as i'll ever be, but i'm happy where i'm at
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| September 21, 2011, 17:06 |
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Re: Intellagence/education, vs. wisdom/experience
I think both are good. Unfortunately many higher educated people don't have much common sence. Brother was an aerospace engineer for 40 years and is just now gettin some common sence. ---lol
Me I had some accounting schoolin and that's definatelty helped. It's amazing how much education can help when you own a truck.
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| September 22, 2011, 16:05 |
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perveman
111 / male
Tucson, Arizona, US
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Re: Intellagence/education, vs. wisdom/experience
People who have the experience of being in the trench's, with intellence who've gained a great education, natural wisdom to see the whole picture, and the common sense to use it are unstoppable. Or, as Michael Kelso, in "The 70's Show" used to say, "Cause I'm so good looking". Hey, whatever works huh? 
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| September 22, 2011, 16:42 |
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Re: Intellagence/education, vs. wisdom/experience
I'm going to agree with the fact that a little of both are helpful. Depending on what your interests in a career are, you may not need both, but others you will. I agree with newbie in the fact that a degree seems to be the equivalent of what a diploma used to be. While a lot of employers seem to require it, i think they often overlook some good candidates that don't possess one. I myself have had a few college classes although i never earned a degree. And i have also known several people who wasted a ton of money paying for college expenses, and never even put the education to use. That's one reason I feel the technical schools are a good option. Like NRG, I also was in the service, although not to that extent. But damn, that would have been awesome to become a pilot! anyway, although the training didn't translate exactly to my career now, it definitely helped me grow up, become more responsible, and self reliant.
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| September 22, 2011, 16:50 |
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Iwant2kssuallovr
62 / female
Bendover, Florida, US
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Re: Intellagence/education, vs. wisdom/experience
I will just add, I had a girl friend with a degree, and she can't find her way out of a paper bag, but, "she thinks she knows everything".
My sister-in-law has her Master's degree, she only works four hours a day, teaching 4 kids. She can't get up in the morning to get her kids ready for school. And, when my niece was first born, she couldn't bother to find a clean washcloth to wipe my niece's face. After 4 days, I threw the nasty, formula crusted washcloth in a bucket, in the laundry room.
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| September 22, 2011, 18:05 |
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Re: Re: Intellagence/education, vs. wisdom/experience
QUOTE (Iwant2kssuallovr @ September 22, 2011, 18:05)I will just add, I had a girl friend with a degree, and she can't find her way out of a paper bag, but, "she thinks she knows everything".
My sister-in-law has her Master's degree, she only works four hours a day, teaching 4 kids. She can't get up in the morning to get her kids ready for school. And, when my niece was first born, she couldn't bother to find a clean washcloth to wipe my niece's face. After 4 days, I threw the nasty, formula crusted washcloth in a bucket, in the laundry room.
my point exactly...sometimes an education is just wasted money! lol! they obviously had that, but definitely lacking in the common sense area...or maybe it was just lack of motivation! lol!
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| September 22, 2011, 18:10 |
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