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thechunkyone
35 / male elizabeth, New Jersey, US
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english language things you may not know
Did you know that groundhog's are really woodchucks? Also a common name for Marmots. The name woodchuck is an anglicized loan word from the Algonquian word wuchak. Algonquian is over 3000 years old and was spoken before Europeans came to north America
Also back in the day and even now people are trying to fixed the spelling like enough would be spelled enuf. Back in the 17th century really is when they started trying to get it fixed.
"English is currently the most widely-spoken language on the planet, yet it is the only language among the top ten most spoken that lacks an official regulatory academy to approve spelling."
From 1450-1750 the English language went thru something called the great vowel shift, where speaking changed but the spelling was left "in static"
Many argument about it still goes on today. many want the English language spelling to reflect how it is said while some say it may help tell more about history.
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February 2, 2011, 02:44 |
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Re: english language things you may not know
I think the last would do both. There's a road by Chicago that's Algonquin. Wonder if it takes ya to 'em.
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February 2, 2011, 14:50 |
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newbie1011
62 / female The Shore, New Jersey, US
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Re: english language things you may not know
See its not my fault I can't spell. The English language is just fucked up!
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February 2, 2011, 15:46 |
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perveman
111 / male Tucson, Arizona, US
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Re: english language things you may not know
Happens to be one of my hobbies, to fix, quote the "fucked up" language. Got started with George Carlin. Flamible, inflamible, non-flamible. "Two words otta handle that idea. Either the thing flams, or it does'nt flam". And have been actively on the trail, to eliminate letters in words not needed, as in gnat. Why the "G"? And am always running into other words, spelled the same, with different meanings. I know all will be on the look out now. Will continue....
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February 2, 2011, 16:34 |
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perveman
111 / male Tucson, Arizona, US
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Re: english language things you may not know
.....Then other words, sound the same, spelled and mean different: flour, flower. Yet others like, can: I can do it, a can of beer. I believe I was put on this planet to spead this "awareness".What's up with all that shit? No wonder english is the hardest language to learn. Glad spanish is my second language, (hello? I'm in Tucson, 60 miles north of Mexico)and those Mexicans, seem to be on to something. They have a different word for EVERYTHING! What a concept, huh?
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February 2, 2011, 16:51 |
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perveman
111 / male Tucson, Arizona, US
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Re: english language things you may not know
And, whoever came up with the soft G? Like ginger. J, DAMN-IT! Jinjer. Same thing. With that "rule", would'nt you spell "jolly", golly? That's why the J, was invented. Now to hard and soft C. Don't K and S, handle that ok? Cock is kok. Cease, is sease. What about ch and sh? Separate letters to make those sounds, as in spanish ll, which make a Y sound, sinle L, same as english L. I'll the spanish go. Is'nt it fun to pick english apart? And this is comming from me, an I can't even spell.
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February 2, 2011, 18:01 |
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perveman
111 / male Tucson, Arizona, US
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Re: english language things you may not know
Ok, ok. Damn, since you asked, one last example, then you're on you're own. Live, live. Unless it has a symble over the "i", how doe's one pronounce it, if it's just one word sitting there. Live. Live somewhere, is one, and live show. Teach that to a non-english speaker. Explain to them, spelled the same, and sounds different, when used differently in a sentence. I'd be asking, WHY, are you out of letters, to make new words? What about the G, we got from gnat, that seems to have no "use"? Or can we "use" it. Oops, did I make that a twofer example? Hey, must suck to be me.
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February 2, 2011, 22:15 |
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kamarel
60 / male Alexandria, Louisiana, US
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Re: english language things you may not know
I like this Brian Regan bit. It explains a lot.
I remember my teacher ask me: "Brian, what's the I before E rule?" Ummm... I before E... Always. "What are you an idiot Brian?" Apparently! So she explains it: "No Brian it's I before E except after C, (and) that sounded like A in a neighbour (and) way and on weekends and holidays and all throughout May and you'll always be wrong no matter what you say!" That's a hard rule.
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February 3, 2011, 00:13 |
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thechunkyone
35 / male elizabeth, New Jersey, US
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Re: Re: english language things you may not know
QUOTE (newbie1011 @ February 2, 2011, 15:46)See its not my fault I can't spell. The English language is just fucked up!
lol i can't just spell
QUOTE (perveman @ February 2, 2011, 16:34)Happens to be one of my hobbies, to fix, quote the "fucked up" language.
i tend to mess with them alot and talk like yoda in a grammer sense and type in 1337 (leet and if no one knows wut that is, it's hacker talk described by dictionaries but we use it also to by-pass chat censors)
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February 4, 2011, 00:27 |
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