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wage vs. job
Are you paid the right amount for what you do?what is it that you do for a paycheck?
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December 28, 2010, 16:02 |
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Re: wage vs. job
This may be a bit off topic based on the specific question that was proposed, but its long been my contention that actors, musicians, professional athletes etc are WAY too overpaid. Most political types make far too much money too, especially considering the hours required and the lifetime perks they receive after leaving office. A recently elected State Senator here had previously served as a State Trooper, 1 term as the County Sheriff and now as a Senator. After out of the Senate, he will collect State Pensions for all 3 of those positions. Thats just wrong (in my opinion) And way too underpaid are anyone who puts their own personal safety at risk for the sake of helping others. Police, Fire and Rescue, EMT's and it goes without saying, Military Personnel.
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December 28, 2010, 17:27 |
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Re: Re: wage vs. job
QUOTE (freensleazy @ December 28, 2010, 17:27)This may be a bit off topic based on the specific question that was proposed, but its long been my contention that actors, musicians, professional athletes etc are WAY too overpaid. Most political types make far too much money too, especially considering the hours required and the lifetime perks they receive after leaving office. A recently elected State Senator here had previously served as a State Trooper, 1 term as the County Sheriff and now as a Senator. After out of the Senate, he will collect State Pensions for all 3 of those positions. Thats just wrong (in my opinion) And way too underpaid are anyone who puts their own personal safety at risk for the sake of helping others. Police, Fire and Rescue, EMT's and it goes without saying, Military Personnel. agreed my friend...but u didnt answer
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December 28, 2010, 18:06 |
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Re: wage vs. job
Truck owner/driver here. No I don't. If things were truly fair, the rates now would be over $5 per miles. That's taking into account general inflation and expecially fuel cost.
Everyone should be thankful there's companies out there willing to haul the shit for under $1 per mile yet. The fools.
It costs .65 per mile or more to run a truck. That counts fuel, tires, general wear and tear and more.
As far as drivier pay? Well, if you're not home for 2 or more weeks. Spend 1/3 of your time loading, 1/3 of your time unloading, then that .35 cents per mile isn't that much.
Well, ya asked.
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December 28, 2010, 18:12 |
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Iwant2kssuallovr
62 / female Bendover, Florida, US
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I don't think I can answer this without my blood pressure rising... Sorry!
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December 28, 2010, 18:36 |
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Re: Re: Re: wage vs. job
QUOTE (KandyKock @ December 28, 2010, 18:06) QUOTE (freensleazy @ December 28, 2010, 17:27)This may be a bit off topic based on the specific question that was proposed, but its long been my contention that actors, musicians, professional athletes etc are WAY too overpaid. Most political types make far too much money too, especially considering the hours required and the lifetime perks they receive after leaving office. A recently elected State Senator here had previously served as a State Trooper, 1 term as the County Sheriff and now as a Senator. After out of the Senate, he will collect State Pensions for all 3 of those positions. Thats just wrong (in my opinion) And way too underpaid are anyone who puts their own personal safety at risk for the sake of helping others. Police, Fire and Rescue, EMT's and it goes without saying, Military Personnel. agreed my friend...but u didnt answer
I am self employed and given my vast wisdom and skills in various areas, I am grossly underpaid!
Now, to be serious, too many people assume that because youre self employed, you're wealthy, and that just isnt true. All other bills have to be paid and if there's little or nothing left at the end of the month, sometimes you just can't pay yourself. It can be quite stressful.
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December 28, 2010, 18:36 |
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Re: wage vs. job
i cook for a living (with a part time job in a grocery store deli on the side). i certainly don't feel like i get paid nearly enough, but my rate is comparable with most cooks around the area. i think $10/hr is pretty high, in this area anyway. my problem is, out of that $10 i probably only see about $3 in my paycheck, after child support and taxes get taken out. i'm not trying to sound like i'm complaining. i know that paying child support is important. it's just that bringing home roughly $150 (or less) every 2 weeks sucks for the amount of work i do.
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December 28, 2010, 19:33 |
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Re: Re: wage vs. job
QUOTE (Iwant2kssuallovr @ December 28, 2010, 18:36)I don't think I can answer this without my blood pressure rising... Sorry! can I at least ask what it is that you do? btw you're adorable
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December 28, 2010, 21:16 |
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Iwant2kssuallovr
62 / female Bendover, Florida, US
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Re: wage vs. job
I've worked a number of jobs. One of my first was at a Bridal Salon, as a consultant, and I earned $440. a month. This was back in 1980, and I lived with my mom. I gave her $400. a month, and I spent the rest.
For about 3 years, I worked as a clerk for the USPS. I earned $9, and left earning $11 an hour.
For many years, I worked full, or part-time as a waitress, bartender, and nail tech. Receiving tips, means you always have money on hand.
My most high paying job, I worked as a Workers' Comp Insurance adjuster. I think my starting salary was $20K, however, I changed companies and upped my salary to $35K. Through a great deal of hard work, I managed to work my way up to $54K. If you actually go to work, and do your job, it can be very stressfull. I believe I was overworked, but never complained about the pay. It would have been so much easier, had I no conscience, f'ed off, and just collected my paycheck.
Whoops.... were we not suppose to say how much we made?
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December 28, 2010, 21:28 |
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thechunkyone
35 / male elizabeth, New Jersey, US
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my old job i was doing alot more then this one. old job i should have gotten 12 bucks seeing as i got called to do like everything
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December 28, 2010, 22:15 |
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Re: Re: wage vs. job
QUOTE (Iwant2kssuallovr @ December 28, 2010, 21:28)I've worked a number of jobs. One of my first was at a Bridal Salon, as a consultant, and I earned $440. a month. This was back in 1980, and I lived with my mom. I gave her $400. a month, and I spent the rest.
For about 3 years, I worked as a clerk for the USPS. I earned $9, and left earning $11 an hour.
For many years, I worked full, or part-time as a waitress, bartender, and nail tech. Receiving tips, means you always have money on hand.
My most high paying job, I worked as a Workers' Comp Insurance adjuster. I think my starting salary was $20K, however, I changed companies and upped my salary to $35K. Through a great deal of hard work, I managed to work my way up to $54K. If you actually go to work, and do your job, it can be very stressfull. I believe I was overworked, but never complained about the pay. It would have been so much easier, had I no conscience, f'ed off, and just collected my paycheck.
Whoops.... were we not suppose to say how much we made? you're friggen cute as hell
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December 28, 2010, 22:29 |
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Re: wage vs. job
Ah, Kandy...if only she had a dime for every time she heard that!
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December 28, 2010, 22:33 |
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Re: Re: wage vs. job
QUOTE (Chazzy @ December 28, 2010, 22:33)Ah, Kandy...if only she had a dime for every time she heard that! then she'd REALLY be embarrassed to post how much she made, she would be a GAZILLIONAIRE...
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December 28, 2010, 23:02 |
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newbie1011
62 / female The Shore, New Jersey, US
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I have had many jobs in my life since I started working as a kid.I was a model as a kid and up until I got pregnant with my first child approximately 26 years ago. I only did it part time but it always paid very well. Some jobs were a split of clothes and money. I modeled hair cuts for several years as well. I definitely can't complain about any of those jobs.
I waitress-ed and bartended for many years as well and also made good money at those as well, Of course the better the place the better the money. I did great bartending in private clubs, after hours clubs and gogo bars.(Yes they are called gogo bars here because they aren't nude).I also worked as a dancer in many of these clubs and that was great money, not to mention you are dancing all night so how fun is that!
I worked in customer service for a little while at a cable company. That sucked and the pay sucked even more. When I did telemarketing for the same company I made much more money so it was ok but boring.
Most of my adult life I was in Advertising sales. I sold advertising and wrote some of the commercials as well as directed and produced many of them.I loved what I did and was very good at it so I made alot of money. I was making 6 figures but I worked so many hours I was never really off the clock. It's one of those jobs that everywhere you go is a client or potential client or opportunity of some type. I had to work out entire marketing campaigns for many clients so it never got boring. I was in a car accident that has put me out of work and now living on disability which SUCKS!
As a side note most musicians, actors, athletes, try to get to be like the famous ones and make millions but the truth is most don't, only a small percentage (Less than 10%)get that lucky.Most of them work several jobs to pursue their dreams that might but most times never happen.
As for politicians I think we all agree they are way over paid. As for people that put their lives on the line for us I think we all agree again are not even close to being paid enough.
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December 29, 2010, 07:17 |
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Re: Re: Re: Re: wage vs. job
QUOTE (freensleazy @ December 28, 2010, 18:36) QUOTE (KandyKock @ December 28, 2010, 18:06) QUOTE (freensleazy @ December 28, 2010, 17:27)This may be a bit off topic based on the specific question that was proposed, but its long been my contention that actors, musicians, professional athletes etc are WAY too overpaid. Most political types make far too much money too, especially considering the hours required and the lifetime perks they receive after leaving office. A recently elected State Senator here had previously served as a State Trooper, 1 term as the County Sheriff and now as a Senator. After out of the Senate, he will collect State Pensions for all 3 of those positions. Thats just wrong (in my opinion) And way too underpaid are anyone who puts their own personal safety at risk for the sake of helping others. Police, Fire and Rescue, EMT's and it goes without saying, Military Personnel. agreed my friend...but u didnt answer
I am self employed and given my vast wisdom and skills in various areas, I am grossly underpaid!
Now, to be serious, too many people assume that because youre self employed, you're wealthy, and that just isnt true. All other bills have to be paid and if there's little or nothing left at the end of the month, sometimes you just can't pay yourself. It can be quite stressful.
That says it all right there.
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December 29, 2010, 07:32 |
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wantubad2
54 / male white creek, New York, US
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Re: wage vs. job
I work in a factory assembling steering columns for the toyota camry.They work us very hard and at a very fast pace,but I think that I get paid fairly well for the area.
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December 29, 2010, 11:33 |
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funlovingpair
59 / couple Frozen Tundra, Minnesota, US
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I work for State Government. Everyone believes we are "SO over paid" for the work we do. I think not. We are the first ones to have pay freezes, reduced benifits, less staff on the job. I put my life on the line everyday I am employeed. But that doesn't count for nothing. I guess we're all just suppose put not only our lives on the line, but at times the lives of our families too. My paycheck gets smaller, as I have to pay more for my retirement, which is less than Social Security, and health care needs. We have only recieved payraises in 2 of the last 8 years. It's no wonder that so many in my field have to file bankruptcy, and have such a high rate of divorce.
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December 29, 2010, 20:05 |
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Iwant2kssuallovr
62 / female Bendover, Florida, US
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And, the sicking, rise in high blood pressure part. It is reported STARS earn $10,000 per tweet on their tweeter account. My dad would call this a sin.
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December 30, 2010, 00:37 |
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kamarel
60 / male Alexandria, Louisiana, US
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After 20 yrs in customer service, I suppose my wage is commensurate with my skill and experience on the job. I've worked incoming sales calls, floor sales, shipping receiving, and managed 2 different stores. For most of the last 10 years I was the single point of contact for our 2nd largest account. during that time, I setup separate accounts and added purchasing to my repertoire. I occasionally lack tact to deal sales reps and suit and tie types, but they all know if I say it can be done it will. Climbing the ladder (and wage scale) is a challenge and I've found I need to bull my way thru. Including leaving and returning a year later. My current fight is with time and money. I already put in 40-50 hours regularly and since I'm a salaried employee, I get 0 extra. I'm trying out a new phrase, "What's in it for me?" It hasn't born much fruit yet. But I can wait.
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December 30, 2010, 01:50 |
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Re: Re: wage vs. job
QUOTE (kamarel @ December 30, 2010, 01:50)After 20 yrs in customer service, I suppose my wage is commensurate with my skill and experience on the job. I've worked incoming sales calls, floor sales, shipping receiving, and managed 2 different stores. For most of the last 10 years I was the single point of contact for our 2nd largest account. during that time, I setup separate accounts and added purchasing to my repertoire. I occasionally lack tact to deal sales reps and suit and tie types, but they all know if I say it can be done it will. Climbing the ladder (and wage scale) is a challenge and I've found I need to bull my way thru. Including leaving and returning a year later. My current fight is with time and money. I already put in 40-50 hours regularly and since I'm a salaried employee, I get 0 extra. I'm trying out a new phrase, "What's in it for me?" It hasn't born much fruit yet. But I can wait.
That's the problen with salaries. No extra for more than regular time. Much like the drivers who sit at docks 20 hours per week for free.
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December 30, 2010, 01:57 |
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Iwant2kssuallovr
62 / female Bendover, Florida, US
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I had a girlfriend who is a computer programer. She works as a manager for a company who prints coupons for grocery stores. She earns $120K a year, and receives a 20% bonus. She use to call me at work and tell me she was bored. At 40, I would sit at my desk having chest pains because I was buried in mail, e-mails, files, litigation, and management screaming at me. She was making $50. an hour, and was bored! We actually don't talk anymore, for numerous reasons.
My sister-in-law, has a Master degree. She teaches autistic children. She teaches 4 kids, for four hours a day, and I think she earns about $60,000. I don't talk to her either, but this is her due to trying to tell me I needed to do what was best for my father the last year of his life. I chose to be a full-time caregiver, rather than dump him in a nursing home and allow doctors to start to amputate parts of his body.
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December 30, 2010, 04:21 |
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Re: Re: wage vs. job
QUOTE (Iwant2kssuallovr @ December 30, 2010, 04:21)I had a girlfriend who is a computer programer. She works as a manager for a company who prints coupons for grocery stores. She earns $120K a year, and receives a 20% bonus. She use to call me at work and tell me she was bored. At 40, I would sit at my desk having chest pains because I was buried in mail, e-mails, files, litigation, and management screaming at me. She was making $50. an hour, and was bored! We actually don't talk anymore, for numerous reasons.
My sister-in-law, has a Master degree. She teaches autistic children. She teaches 4 kids, for four hours a day, and I think she earns about $60,000. I don't talk to her either, but this is her due to trying to tell me I needed to do what was best for my father the last year of his life. I chose to be a full-time caregiver, rather than dump him in a nursing home and allow doctors to start to amputate parts of his body.
First, I'm sorry to hear about your dad.
Secondly, what you described is normal in this life. Why, I'm not sure. It's not very fair that those who do the work get paid so much less than others.
Frankly, I've never stayed working at a place if I wasn't happy there. Irreguardless of the pay. Of course, the down side to that is that now I have to keep working so I have something to retire on.
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December 30, 2010, 13:49 |
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Iwant2kssuallovr
62 / female Bendover, Florida, US
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Thank you OOMG, but my dad was 87 years old, and we all have a expiration date. He lived his life on his own terms and was a happy man. He had one year steady of doctors and hospitals. We had appointments everyday, some time a few in a day. At least I am glad I could be there for him, hold his hand, and let him know he was loved.
Yes, it is true, I hate that people work really hard and make next to nothing. Meaning they have to struggle for just basic needs. It can be very frightening. This is what pissed me off so bad about my girlfriend.
One Saturday, we took a leisurely trip to Cosco. Once in line, we were trying to buy a baby book for her sister. The young cashier said there was no price on the book. My friend said, "Fine, I don't want it." Then, with the book, she shoved the cashier. She turned around and saw me, her eyes got wide.. I was about to kill her. I said, "What is wronnnggg with you." I spoke with the cashier, she found the price no problem and we got the book.
Now this poor girl, was making minimum wage, standing on her feet all day, on a Saturday. You just don't treat people like that. I know she has thought me crazy in the past because I've been known to tip 20% -25%. But, I guess the way you keep money is by not spending it, something I will never learn.
And, regarding your retirement. I had two uncles who were truck drivers. My one uncle is in his 80's now. He just retired a year or two ago. My other uncle lived in Ohio. Shortly after his retirement, he fell over dead at the dinner table.
Well, I guess I've written my share on this thread, although it would be easy to write a book. BTW, don't they always have a write in paper the first of the year regarding peoples salaries? I believe they do! (for Chazzy)
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December 30, 2010, 18:03 |
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Iwant2kssuallovr
62 / female Bendover, Florida, US
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Quote from Kamarel; I'm trying out a new phrase, "What's in it for me?"
The answer for me would be, you get to keep your job. We were always told, we didn't have to walk in the door if we didn't want to. My cousin worked for Medicare and when they were given more piles of work to do, she would say, " Oh Well!".... again, this would not have worked....sorry to say!
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December 30, 2010, 18:06 |
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Re: wage vs. job
I've seen many people die shortly after they retire. Even when dad was stil working. These guys worked in the paper mill most of thier lives. Then hey retire and have nothing to do. No routine to follow. That's what gets 'em.
The tipping? To quote from a STeve Martin movie.--"the point isn't to tip. the point is to over tip." I usually do.
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December 30, 2010, 18:58 |
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