From the topic question thread (revised):*long-winded but perhapse worth discussion*

You can call it picky or just shy.....well, I guess "shy" doesn't really fit me. I can only think of 11. I guess the low number comes from wanting the next one to be at least as good in bed as I am.....Quit rolling your eyes!! I'll explain:

I was raised by a single parent. My father gave me access to all the information of the time about sex. I had subcriptions to Penthouse,Playboy and Sexual Psychology Today. I read the Hite Report and was given any other cited work in the journals that I asked for. From the age of 12 years old I knew more about sexuality than most grown men. When puberty kicked in, the only awkward thing about it was defining love and sex and identifying the triggers.

Subsequently, I was frequently dissapointed with inept lovers. There were 2 that were satisfying. One of those I would say had an understanding of male sexuality . For the most part I find that females lack an understanding of how to satisfy a man sexually. There's simply no *perceived* need by females to be unsefish lovers.

The impetus is on the male to initiate a relationship by facing rejection by skeptical females. Communication by the male must be interesting,humorus and showcase character traits that appeal to that paticular female. In exchange for all of that, the male is not publicly castrated and allowed to talk to the female who then starts the application process in her head for the position of " sexual partner "

If all goes well,by a time limit specified within the females social circles, she is open to having sex with him.......but......the male must still initiate it.......and......he has to just "know" when it is acceptable.

After all this, she turns out to be less satisfying than masteurbation. The act of sex is secondary to the relationship because the relationship centers on her sexual needs and not his. The male,still yearning to have his needs satisfied,seeks another partner.

She doesn't get a phone call and men are once again pigs. Lack of social pressure on the female to be anything but concerned about gratifying the male in a relationship gives them all the power in sexual subplots of a relationship. The female leaves it up to the male,being ignorant of it, while focusing on her own needs. She's a total dud in the sack and the man feels unappreciated while also being punished for making it about sex.

The relationship tumbles into a death spiral of deceit while both parties put on appearences rather than face the truth.

That pretty much sums up my disdain for the whole sexual pursuit thing. We have built a societal structure that encourages women to ignore the needs of the man in a relationship. Since the women's liberation movement started in the 19th century women are evolving like the finches of Darwins adaptation theory into what I would call shelfish relationship divas. Sucking black holes of attention-consuming need. Women of today have no need of the knowledge or effort to know or care about what the man needs from them.

If one were to go back in time, they would find a point where the scales were tipped all the way in the man's favor. Seeing the injustice of that as a society, while trying to balance them, we have come too far the other direction. Sex is again a function of procreation and fulfillment of the needs for one partner.........the woman this time.

There will be no need for chivalry. Men will no longer need to know how to give a woman an orgasm or care. What's to motivate us now that you have done away with blowjobs and anal sex because you feel less than 100% passionate about our pleasure? Do away with quickies and swallowing,go ahead. We won't tolerate The Bachelor and American Idol drool forever.

The internet has come along and saved us the agony of tolerating your diva attitudes. The age of pornography on demand has helped us start to evolve our imaginations so as to make masteurbation more tolerable than the days of underware ads amongst the sticky pages of the Sears and Roebuck catalog. A new species of male is evolving with the advent of streaming video. The days of the sexual divas are numbered.

It's time for our gender to stand upright and accept its adaptation.

Hetero men will seek comfort from the internet or get it on the "down low". Needs met.......game over.

that sure sounds like a ' pretty woman ' looking for her white knight!

there are still real men around, Australia aint lost the plot entirely yet.

But i believe you can still be a real man , but show no-one is above you, and certainly no-one is beneath you, regardless of sex, race, colour etc..

Yes. This equality shit has made the "marauding" moot. Former peasant women are unable or uninterested in weilding the same sword. They are using the same strategy of "being beautiful enough" without the reward to the knight of being "takeable".

Equality,which arose from the Movement,is to blame for this dydfunction. The idiot men in the pink sweaters *are* accessories to the crime though.

Oh...I was just going to throw you on the ground and ravish you like you said....just to see the look in your eye....which I'm sure would be something like this....

wouldnt the last several posts be more at home in the chatroom setting ,good natured banter has always irritated the crap outta me .besides being

were did that come from? take two to have good sex no matter male & male,female & female,or male & female: each partner should enjoy that special time together.

( if we did that now our ass would be in jail )

  QUOTE (texas @ May 2, 2005, 13:56)


The last part is exactly what I am stating.. the world has changed and it hasn't all been an evil female plot to subjugate men and make them miserable. I sometimes think the old ways were better, a woman could enjoy sex with a passing stranger and not be stigmatized by it. Only the "highborn" had to worry about such drivel.

The concept of " good sex " is a relatively new one, for eons sex was primarily a recreation for men and a means of reproduction; women were taught to "not show overt interest in sex and not to permit more than was absolutely necessary to keep your man."

The topic here isn't quality sex, it is more a "lack of sex" thread, and a search for answers to why women do not respond to the mating cries of the male.