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How the F*CK!!!!
I just read where the average hourly wage "earned" by UAW workers at Ford Motor Company is $70.51 ($140,020/yr), GM is $73.26 ($146,520/yr), and CHRYSLER is $75.86 ($151,720/yr) compared to an average hourly salary at TOYOTA, HONDA and NISSAN at $48.00 ($96,000/yr).
My question is how the f*ck is some poor slob making a lousy $15.00/hr supposed to afford to buy one of these overpriced pieces of sh*t? Am I the only one that thinks this is a totally f*cked up situation?
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| May 19, 2009, 10:22 |
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Re: How the F*CK!!!!
No, youre not. No offense to any WN folks who may be UAW members, but this is just ridiculous.
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| May 19, 2009, 10:43 |
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Re: How the F*CK!!!!
If I was a UAW auto worker, I wouldn't say a thing. I'd be way too embarrassed to be bragging  about whether I'm "worth" that kind of money. That in it self, is a ridiculous concept!! 
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| May 19, 2009, 11:24 |
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Re: How the F*CK!!!!
Did what you read factor in benefits in those numbers, or is that separate? And not that it's an issue these days Bill, but the one thing you forgot to mention was overtime pay.
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| May 19, 2009, 11:55 |
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Re: How the F*CK!!!!
It's something I would have to look up. I use to know quite a few that worked at the Chrysler plant up near the city. They were good folks that cherished the fact they had really good jobs but I didn't see anything that suggested they earned that kind of money.
They lived good, had nice homes (nice, not mansions) thier wives worked, their kids were not spoiled. They lived like good hard working people.
I do remember when one of these guys, a long time Chrysler employee guy was horribly injured in an auto accident (on his day off) ended up with a broken back, Chrysler fixed him up with a wheelchair accessible Chrysler van...I thought that was an exceptional move on their part.
Yep, these workers were often the envy of some of the locals because of the job, it's pay and benefits but the ones I knew were such good people and were often the referral gateway for a few others to also get hired on there, sadly for whatever good that did...the plant is closed now.
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| May 19, 2009, 13:03 |
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Re: How the F*CK!!!!
sheesh, the should all each buy a football player, and start their own team...
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| May 19, 2009, 21:36 |
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Re: How the F*CK!!!!
I really don't remember these guys I knew as being like filthy rich really, they worked long hard hours I know, but lived good but fairly modest lives....I dunno...
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| May 20, 2009, 13:08 |
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wandering5tar
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Re: How the F*CK!!!!
On the subject of benefits, GM spends more on Healthcare than it does on sheet metal.
"Not a lot of people know that"
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| May 20, 2009, 20:58 |
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funlovingpair
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Re: How the F*CK!!!!
I just wonder where they came up with that "earned hourly wage"? I real don't think any of the line workers make that kind of money, I know they don't make it at the Ford plant in St. Paul. But they may be talking about "total compsenation", which would include all costs for the employee.
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| May 21, 2009, 01:01 |
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Re: Re: How the F*CK!!!!
QUOTE (funlovingpair @ May 21, 2009, 01:01)I just wonder where they came up with that "earned hourly wage"? I real don't think any of the line workers make that kind of money, I know they don't make it at the Ford plant in St. Paul. But they may be talking about "total compsenation", which would include all costs for the employee.
That could be the way it is. Total cost of that employee!!
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| May 21, 2009, 01:12 |
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hardandwild07
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Re: How the F*CK!!!!
It does include everything, their actual paycheck, is I believe around what Toyota etc total pay is, so all the benefits make it seem a lot more. 
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| May 21, 2009, 01:13 |
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hardandwild07
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Re: How the F*CK!!!!
This reminds me of a saying I saw on a T-shirt many years ago. It said: Be American. Buy American. The job you save, may be your own.
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| May 21, 2009, 01:21 |
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funlovingpair
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Re: How the F*CK!!!!
Its just me. I work for the State and the total cost for me, hourly wage and benifits, is about $65,000. But I have to live on about $29,000.
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| May 21, 2009, 14:32 |
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QUOTE (funlovingpair @ May 21, 2009, 14:32)Its just me. I work for the State and the total cost for me, hourly wage and benifits, is about $65,000. But I have to live on about $29,000.
Hey, hey, careful how you use the term "work" when you refer to state employment!! 
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| May 21, 2009, 14:52 |
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Re: How the F*CK!!!!
OH now don't you even go there VB!
Now you know that flp are damn good people, you gotta know they are hard workers with strong ethics, I wouldn't be surprised if that joke just don't fly.
What you said, although meant as just a funny, could be pretty insulting.
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| May 21, 2009, 14:56 |
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Re: How the F*CK!!!!
Awwww...vb...you just painted a big red and white target on your own forehead, doode..
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| May 21, 2009, 15:01 |
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Re: Re: How the F*CK!!!!
QUOTE (Chazzy @ May 21, 2009, 15:01)Awwww...vb...you just painted a big red and white target on your own forehead, doode..
Imagine my surprise!!!
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| May 21, 2009, 15:13 |
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QUOTE (voyeurbill @ May 21, 2009, 14:52) QUOTE (funlovingpair @ May 21, 2009, 14:32)Its just me. I work for the State and the total cost for me, hourly wage and benifits, is about $65,000. But I have to live on about $29,000.
Hey, hey, careful how you use the term "work" when you refer to state employment!!
Hey, you be careful...for one, I sure as hell wouldn't wanna be a state worker who deals with state prisoners all day, or a state worker who has to constantly check in on crack whores to see if they are feeding their kids, or a state worker who's gotta gather up piss tests for probationers, for the amount of money these people get paid....I'm damn glad there are state workers out there who in their hearts must hear some higher caller for a responsiblity to society and community to do these kind jobs and allot other jobs.
Don't you be pissey on state workers there, VB.
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| May 21, 2009, 15:20 |
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Re: How the F*CK!!!!
As a former citizen of Massachusetts, I often saw and read about lazy ass, union protected state "workers" that would constantly not show up for work or come to work stinkin' drunk or strung out, putting other citizens at risk of injury or death. What happened to these losers? Fired or prosecuted? Fuck no! They would be protected by the unions that they "worked" under.
I realize that most state union and non-union workers are not users but I was just venting on those who take extreme advantage of their employment positions. They deserve to lose their jobs and maybe made to pay for their transgressions.
Just my humble opinion...... 
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| May 21, 2009, 15:33 |
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Re: How the F*CK!!!!
I don't care if they are state employed or not, union or not....any lazy ass drunk idiots should lose their jobs.
I can say that without insulting any large collection of employees in one large lump. Simply, without turning this into a pro or con union messy debate...ya know how I roll...
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| May 21, 2009, 15:38 |
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Re: Re: How the F*CK!!!!
QUOTE (Chazzy @ May 21, 2009, 15:38)I don't care if they are state employed or not, union or not....any lazy ass drunk idiots should lose their jobs.
I can say that without insulting any large collection of employees in one large lump. Simply, without turning this into a pro or con union messy debate...ya know how I roll...
I understand. Nuff said about this, Oh my blood pressure......
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| May 21, 2009, 15:39 |
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Re: How the F*CK!!!!
Your gonna need a bigger brick wall 
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| May 21, 2009, 15:41 |
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QUOTE (Chazzy @ May 21, 2009, 15:41) Your gonna need a bigger brick wall
Now I gotta wicked headache!!
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| May 21, 2009, 15:55 |
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Re: How the F*CK!!!!
I just got a vicodin refill, I'd share with ya if I could...I hate the damn things anyway...
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| May 21, 2009, 15:58 |
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QUOTE (Chazzy @ May 21, 2009, 15:58)I just got a vicodin refill, I'd share with ya if I could...I hate the damn things anyway...
Ahhhhhhh, A Vicodin and a Captain Morgan and Coke. Now that would cure my achin' head!!
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| May 21, 2009, 16:00 |
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Re: How the F*CK!!!!
Damn things, I hate 'em....they take the edge off the physical pain, but make me feel kinda drag ass...
Anyway, I'm being a big hijacking hypocrite here...I'm a bad girl.
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| May 21, 2009, 16:02 |
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QUOTE (Chazzy @ May 21, 2009, 16:02)Damn things, I hate 'em....they take the edge off the physical pain, but make me feel kinda drag ass...
Anyway, I'm being a big hijacking hypocrite here...I'm a bad girl.
I  anyway!! 
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| May 21, 2009, 16:10 |
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QUOTE (voyeurbill @ May 21, 2009, 14:52) QUOTE (funlovingpair @ May 21, 2009, 14:32)Its just me. I work for the State and the total cost for me, hourly wage and benifits, is about $65,000. But I have to live on about $29,000.
Hey, hey, careful how you use the term "work" when you refer to state employment!!
Yea, Yea Yea. Like I've heard that shit before. Besides, ya know it takes several state workers to hold those shovels up.
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| May 21, 2009, 23:53 |
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QUOTE (Chazzy @ May 21, 2009, 14:56)OH now don't you even go there VB!
Now you know that flp are damn good people, you gotta know they are hard workers with strong ethics, I wouldn't be surprised if that joke just don't fly.
What you said, although meant as just a funny, could be pretty insulting.
Don't worry Chazzy, it will take a much bigger dude than VB to get my feathers ruffled.
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| May 21, 2009, 23:55 |
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Re: How the F*CK!!!!
He's so whipped anyway...his wife controls the remote to the TV...
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| May 22, 2009, 00:13 |
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QUOTE (Chazzy @ May 22, 2009, 00:13)He's so whipped anyway...his wife controls the remote to the TV...
Like no one else here knew. We can read between the lines. At home he's all yes dear, anything you say dear. 
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| May 22, 2009, 01:09 |
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QUOTE (funlovingpair @ May 22, 2009, 01:09)
oh so THAT'S why he was ranting about Meredith Veira's looks in that other thread? HE can't change the channel, without the wife's permission???
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