I think some are necessary but also believe that government has gone too far with them. Taking away the incentive for able bodied people to work.

  QUOTE (JCSOS @ August 16, 2008, 08:30)


Boy are you so not pc! Take away those entitlements? You ought to be ashamed of yourself!!

  QUOTE (JCSOS @ August 16, 2008, 08:30)


Boy are you so not pc! Take away those entitlements? You ought to be ashamed of yourself!!

  QUOTE (voyeurbill @ August 16, 2008, 11:23)




Entitlements? Sure ... the system can be and is abused...but I sure don't buy into the thinking that anyone that is on assistance is a lazy drunk addict...I cannot assume anything like that at all. I'm sure that there are people right here that get some sort of assistance from somewhere once in awhile, or on a steady basis. Maybe someone you know, someone you know to be a good person, maybe even someone you think of as a friend.

My charitable "obsession"? The local food pantry...it's a safety net (now with the recent economy) it helps out 500 families in a month (up from 350 last year)...and I give even when it hurts...and I don't give a shit if mom and dad are lazy, drunks or addicts Why don't I give a shit about that? Because I understand what pure charity means and these households contain children, children are innocents and deserve the very basics of food. They deserve a chance to have something of a "normal" childhood that just may enable them to break the cycle and NOT grow up like thier parents. I gladly take a little food from my table and take that chance.

By the way JC, I'm sorry if I came off sounding uppitty or harsh there...my old piece of crap hand me down computer that I use during the day...it only runs for short periods of time, it'll just shut down without warning, and sometimes I just kinda rush through and type before it shuts off...and when I get a chance I use my hub's computer when he's at work, and reread things then..no excuse for being rude though, didn't wanna come off rude dear...

Sure I get the idea, there is fraud....from both sides of the desk too.


Can't really touch on the immigration thing in the forums really, that's a powder keg for sure! ( have had to delete a couple of immigration topics over the past several years.)

I like the companies retraining and relocating employees stuff, that's good stuff. I finally got myself processed for school after the factory shut down, through the Attorney Generals office, couldn't get shit down through the unemployment office.
The fraudulent disabilities thing? Ya mean like people claiming disabilities like severe depression, or maybe faking an injury (or at least making out that an injury is permanent when it isn't?

I know that depression and bi-polar and other mental health related disabilities seem to be a newer "trend", if that's the right word or term to use. I'm certain that those are like the other disabilities, a certain amount are bona fide, and too many are just fraudulent.

There's always gonna be (always have been) those unethical scroundrels that abuse and defraud, not only the country's programs of assistance, but con artist who bilk others out of hundred, thousands millions, to some panhandlers on the street that beg for profit... but there's always thieves among us...but generally speaking, I still say this country is awesome, the red tape and bureuacracy can suck a big one....but it's still a fantastic place to live.

I'm sure there aren't many of us, who haven't needed or used a little help from a system program, or family and friends to get us balanced and back on our feet again on a small or large scale and for the most part I think people are good.